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Badger11 said:
James Comey former head of the FBI is indicted on 2 charges.

The BBC is at great pains to point out that Trump went after him and the prosecutor is a Trump ally.

As I and others have repeatedly said on this thread the US justice system is open to political manipulation. The Democrats took at an injunction against Trump's Mexican border policy in Hawaii instead of Arizona, this is know as judge shopping.

No doubt this case was raised in Virginia because Trump believes this is his best chance.

You can indict a ham sandwich, what matters is the actual trial. If he is guilty then he deserves to be punished they are serious charges.

A prosecutor doesn't have to use a grand jury to indict someone, however the defence would likely request a judge dismiss the charges due to lack of evidence. So the prosecutor then runs the risk of coming up against an unfriendly judge and falling at the first hurdle.

It would be far harder for a judge to dismiss an indictment from a Grand Jury as it undermines the process, even if the judge is sceptical.
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This has been flagged up as likely for some time. It is self evident that Trump is targeting all who criticise him, along with the public servants who did their jobs in investigating and prosecuting him. This is the behaviour of a dictator and not that of a President in a system which relies upon the separation of powers.

Comey has been a target for years. The statute of limitations was about to run out on these allegations but the lawyer charged with handling them could not find enough evidence to bring a case. So Trump fired him and replaced him with another of his personal lawyers. If this isn’t political interference in the legal process then I don’t know what could be! The new guy has done what his boss asked him to do.

I heard Michael Wolff, someone who knows Trump very well, on this the other day. He is outspokenly critical of Trump so may yet be a target himself. He suggested that this is going to put Pam Bondi in a bind because by acquiescing to Trump’s demands puts her, and all of those in similar positions, in great jeopardy from actions by a future administration. Greater jeopardy, in Wolff’s opinion than anything faced by Comey. His view being she must make decisions on whether to resist Trump and get fired herself, but stay out of jail, or cooperate, make herself very rich with the payoffs and hope he pardons her in time.

Looks like, at least for now, we know which path she has chosen.
 
eaglesdare said:
www.foxnews.com

Dallas ICE gunman's handwritten note threatened 'real terror,' FBI reveals

The gunman who attacked a Dallas ICE facility sought "real terror" for agents and "searched apps that tracked the presence" of ICE personnel, the FBI says.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

-Downloaded list of DHS facilities
-Repeated searches of the Charlie Kirk shooting
-Tracked ICE agent movements through apps
-Had a handwritten note saying, "Hopefully this will give ICE agents real terror."

But yes the usual suspects will deny that this is a radical leftist lunatic....🤷🏻‍♂️ And will eventually blame Trump 🤣
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This one does. There is no evidence at all, yet, of the guy’s politics. Even if they were far to the left and he was mentally ill, both of which need to be true for your assertion to be correct, then all that means is yet another who ought not have access to a powerful weapon has got hold of one.

The “left” in the USA want to control guns. The right don’t. So who is to blame?
 
HKOwen said:
Karma for the lying Comey
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Yep, Biden's 'departments' arrested dozens of his political opponents.

Trump didn't do that in his first term only to find them trying to put him in jail, doing all they could to even stop him running for president....quite incredible..... persecuting and suing anyone who would do business with him.

Just what did they expect? Just as was done to Trump, if anyone involved in that isn't whistle clean then they are getting the same treatment.

They can't say this wasn't mentioned at the time.
 
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Trump just flew low over the Ryder Cup course 😀

Europe currently 3 - 0 up with a match out there
 
Badger11 said:
James Comey former head of the FBI is indicted on 2 charges.

The BBC is at great pains to point out that Trump went after him and the prosecutor is a Trump ally.

As I and others have repeatedly said on this thread the US justice system is open to political manipulation. The Democrats took at an injunction against Trump's Mexican border policy in Hawaii instead of Arizona, this is know as judge shopping.

No doubt this case was raised in Virginia because Trump believes this is his best chance.

You can indict a ham sandwich, what matters is the actual trial. If he is guilty then he deserves to be punished they are serious charges.

A prosecutor doesn't have to use a grand jury to indict someone, however the defence would likely request a judge dismiss the charges due to lack of evidence. So the prosecutor then runs the risk of coming up against an unfriendly judge and falling at the first hurdle.

It would be far harder for a judge to dismiss an indictment from a Grand Jury as it undermines the process, even if the judge is sceptical.
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Shocking conduct from both sides.

The separation of power of executive and judiciary should be sacrosanct. It came close here over Brexit, with you lot swallowing the gibberish pumped out by the Express et al about the Marxist-Trotskyite/masonic/elite/Europhilic judiciary and what other made-up buzz words popped into their heads and then yours.

But back on planet earth and reality, we generally we do a good job on this, especially since we have no written constitution.

The US has such a constitution and it is very clear on this. That both sides ride roughshod over it is shameful.
 
silvertop said:
Shocking conduct from both sides.

The separation of power of executive and judiciary should be sacrosanct. It came close here over Brexit, with you lot swallowing the gibberish pumped out by the Express et al about the Marxist-Trotskyite/masonic/elite/Europhilic judiciary and what other made-up buzz words popped into their heads and then yours.

But back on planet earth and reality, we generally we do a good job on this, especially since we have no written constitution.

The US has such a constitution and it is very clear on this. That both sides ride roughshod over it is shameful.
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Yeah, I think the 'Marxist-Trotskyite/masonic/elite/Europhilic judiciary' have done a really good job of convincing everyone on the right that they are wrong about that.............

How about you have believed the gibberish that there's no smoke without fire there.
 
Trump has turned up at the course to gee up the yanks at the Ryder Cup!

They're losing 3-1 right now
 
Stirlingsays said:
Yep, Biden's 'departments' arrested dozens of his political opponents.

Trump didn't do that in his first term only to find them trying to put him in jail, doing all they could to even stop him running for president....quite incredible..... persecuting and suing anyone who would do business with him.

Just what did they expect? Just as was done to Trump, if anyone involved in that isn't whistle clean then they are getting the same treatment.

They can't say this wasn't mentioned at the time.
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You would think that though, wouldn’t you?

Those with any sense of the actual truth, rather than just parroting the Trump line, know differently.

Some people get prosecuted for real crimes. Like trying to steal elections, encourage insurrections, run fraudulent businesses or molest women.

Others get targeted by corrupt Presidents in corrupt regimes because they stand up to the corruption and tell the truth.

I know what side I am on!
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
You would think that though, wouldn’t you?

Those with any sense of the actual truth, rather than just parroting the Trump line, know differently.

Some people get prosecuted for real crimes. Like trying to steal elections, encourage insurrections, run fraudulent businesses or molest women.

Others get targeted by corrupt Presidents in corrupt regimes because they stand up to the corruption and tell the truth.

I know what side I am on!
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He's coming for yea Corny!

He'll find you on that beach marking out some anti Trump message with seashells.
 
FBI: 274 agents sent to Capitol for J6, many later complained they were political ‘pawns’.

Investigations into the conduct of each agent, who told them to go (is appears the Washington FBI Field Office was most heavily involved, led at the time by Steven D'Antuono), and what they were told to do.

That said--the comments posted in the so-called "after action" report demonstrate how so many FBI employees were angry about the politicization of the bureau at the time. Not only did FBI employees point out to their superiors the unequal approach to Jan 6 v 2020 riots in DC (which most admit was far worse) and the FBI's abusive investigation into J6ers particularly those accused of misdemeanor offenses.
 
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When you hear the Democrats or the left complaining about Trump going after them, remember this picture of all the Trump officials they prosecuted....including Trump himself. Doing everything they could to ruin their lives....it was their choice. What goes around...and many said at the time, but the left always bet it all on red and then only cry about if it later goes wrong for them.

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Stirlingsays said:
When you hear the Democrats or the left complaining about Trump going after them, remember this picture of all the Trump officials they prosecuted....including Trump himself. Doing everything they could to ruin their lives....it was their choice. What goes around...and many said at the time, but the left always bet it all on red and then only cry about if it later goes wrong for them.

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Honestly thank God Trump won. Could you imagine the state of world and the direction it would have went if that bullet last year didn't miss.

I have just seen this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1971613223741964536
 
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