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You can't link that though, they re individual opinions unrelated to Kirk




......according to use of your logic.
 
eaglesdare said:
Dodging again... Sleepy joes late condemnation does not erase the lefts cheerleading for "peaceful" chaos. Try harder. 👍🏻

Anyways the conservatives are showing you how it's done by the peaceful funeral and memorial going on now.

You have to be a special kind of person to protest a funeral. Let people mourn they way they want. They arnt hurting you or anyone else. If you have nothing good to say then don't say anything at all and let the people mourn in peace.
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Whenever I read your defence of the behaviour of the US right it seems to me you parrot exactly the same sentiments of the idiot who is their current President. Yesterday’s event was described as a funeral but was his coffin there? Was he interred? I don’t think so. This had the atmosphere of a political rally and to describe it as a “memorial” absurd. Memorials take place months after someone dies and are reflective tributes.

It wasn’t peaceful in any way. The most impressive speaker was his widow who called for forgiveness and not hatred, saying she forgave his killer. That’s Christian like.

Trump by comparison said this about him:-

"He did not hate his opponents, he wanted the best for them," he said, prompting some laughs. "That's where I disagree with Charlie. I hate my opponents and I don't want what's best for them."

That from the President! Stoking hatred when he could and should be trying to heal.

Almost every speaker was a right wing politician doing the same. If that’s mourning a death then please stay away from mine.

The idea that the left would have wanted this is nonsensical. The last thing they would have wanted was to gift the right a martyr figure.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
The President and VP are political activists? They're politicians and what they did is second nature to politicians. You might not agree with it but it's the way of the modern world.
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They are politicians at a “funeral” where they had the opportunity to step above the daily political slanging matches and speak to all the people about peace and reconciliation.

What did they do? They ignored that opportunity, which was more a responsibility than opportunity, and just continued the divisive rhetoric.

It was disgusting to watch.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
They are politicians at a “funeral” where they had the opportunity to step above the daily political slanging matches and speak to all the people about peace and reconciliation.

What did they do? They ignored that opportunity, which was more a responsibility than opportunity, and just continued the divisive rhetoric.

It was disgusting to watch.
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It's disgusting reading your posts.
 
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Wisbech Eagle said:
They are politicians at a “funeral” where they had the opportunity to step above the daily political slanging matches and speak to all the people about peace and reconciliation.

What did they do? They ignored that opportunity, which was more a responsibility than opportunity, and just continued the divisive rhetoric.

It was disgusting to watch.
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How is this reaction anything other than an attempt to politicise the event. If Trump had come out releasing doves and singing Don't Look Back in Anger you'd have said he didn't really mean it.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Whenever I read your defence of the behaviour of the US right it seems to me you parrot exactly the same sentiments of the idiot who is their current President. Yesterday’s event was described as a funeral but was his coffin there? Was he interred? I don’t think so. This had the atmosphere of a political rally and to describe it as a “memorial” absurd. Memorials take place months after someone dies and are reflective tributes.

It wasn’t peaceful in any way. The most impressive speaker was his widow who called for forgiveness and not hatred, saying she forgave his killer. That’s Christian like.

Trump by comparison said this about him:-

"He did not hate his opponents, he wanted the best for them," he said, prompting some laughs. "That's where I disagree with Charlie. I hate my opponents and I don't want what's best for them."

That from the President! Stoking hatred when he could and should be trying to heal.

Almost every speaker was a right wing politician doing the same. If that’s mourning a death then please stay away from mine.

The idea that the left would have wanted this is nonsensical. The last thing they would have wanted was to gift the right a martyr figure.
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You call a memorial a "political rally" while ignoring the lefts silence on actual riots....classic dodging.

Erika Kirk who is now a widow and has grace that outshines your spin.

Again let people mourn without your lecture and keep parroting the Trump hate that you have it’s all you really have 👍🏻

Charlie kirks death has revealed a lot about people and their reaction to it. Your mask along with a lot of peoples has slipped. The hate and rage you have is not a good look.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
The President and VP are political activists? They're politicians and what they did is second nature to politicians. You might not agree with it but it's the way of the modern world.
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Mistakenly you would think a funeral was about the deceased but no,a trump trumpeting event, like Nero he fiddles away whilst the world burns.
 
georgenorman said:
It's disgusting reading your posts.
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Unfortunately, the price we pay for free speech is to endure the twaddle of weirdos, trolls, idiots and those with warped ideals.

Unless we put them on ignore of course.

They are always available if you need to reaffirm the reasons why you have to oppose their kind at all costs.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
How is this reaction anything other than an attempt to politicise the event. If Trump had come out releasing doves and singing Don't Look Back in Anger you'd have said he didn't really mean it.
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I would not!

I would have said that at least he tried. Just as when, during the Covid crisis, he was persuaded to try to lead the whole nation rather than follow his instincts and divide it.

I am not attempting to politicise the event. It was unarguably and indefensibly political. I am just pointing that out.
 
eaglesdare said:
You call a memorial a "political rally" while ignoring the lefts silence on actual riots....classic dodging.

Erika Kirk who is now a widow and has grace that outshines your spin.

Again let people mourn without your lecture and keep parroting the Trump hate that you have it’s all you really have 👍🏻

Charlie kirks death has revealed a lot about people and their reaction to it. Your mask along with a lot of peoples has slipped. The hate and rage you have is not a good look.
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Those riots happened years ago, in totally different circumstances and were condemned at the time whilst the causes were also examined.

Charlie Kirk’s death shocked everyone and every responsible politician in the centre and on the left has expressed their condolences and sympathy for the bereaved. They have also questioned the underlying cause of so much hatred, whilst not excusing it. Only a few idiots on the fringes have made irresponsible remarks. That happens when you create such deep divisions.

I have already paid credit to his widow for standing above the political rhetoric. Something Trump, and you, could learn from.

Charlie Kirk held ideas I fundamentally disagree with at every level. That doesn’t mean I wanted him dead or am pleased he is. He had as much right as I do to hold his ideas.

What’s happening isn’t mourning at all. It’s the political exploitation of a personal tragedy.

Which I most surely hate, coming as it does from someone leading the most outrageous administration in the history of the USA. I am not sure the USA can recover from this. Time heals, but these divisions are very deep.

It’s the ideas I hate. Not the people. I forgive them, for they know not what they do.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Those riots happened years ago, in totally different circumstances and were condemned at the time whilst the causes were also examined.

Charlie Kirk’s death shocked everyone and every responsible politician in the centre and on the left has expressed their condolences and sympathy for the bereaved. They have also questioned the underlying cause of so much hatred, whilst not excusing it. Only a few idiots on the fringes have made irresponsible remarks. That happens when you create such deep divisions.

I have already paid credit to his widow for standing above the political rhetoric. Something Trump, and you, could learn from.

Charlie Kirk held ideas I fundamentally disagree with at every level. That doesn’t mean I wanted him dead or am pleased he is. He had as much right as I do to hold his ideas.

What’s happening isn’t mourning at all. It’s the political exploitation of a personal tragedy.

Which I most surely hate, coming as it does from someone leading the most outrageous administration in the history of the USA. I am not sure the USA can recover from this. Time heals, but these divisions are very deep.

It’s the ideas I hate. Not the people. I forgive them, for they know not what they do.
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You claim to hate the ideas not the people yet your response continues have venom for Trump and the rest of us while sidestepping the lefts selective outrage.....again!

Erika Kirks dignity exposes your sanctimonious lecture.

You just still can’t see past the hate you claim to reject.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Whenever I read your defence of the behaviour of the US right it seems to me you parrot exactly the same sentiments of the idiot who is their current President. Yesterday’s event was described as a funeral but was his coffin there? Was he interred? I don’t think so. This had the atmosphere of a political rally and to describe it as a “memorial” absurd. Memorials take place months after someone dies and are reflective tributes.

It wasn’t peaceful in any way. The most impressive speaker was his widow who called for forgiveness and not hatred, saying she forgave his killer. That’s Christian like.

Trump by comparison said this about him:-

"He did not hate his opponents, he wanted the best for them," he said, prompting some laughs. "That's where I disagree with Charlie. I hate my opponents and I don't want what's best for them."

That from the President! Stoking hatred when he could and should be trying to heal.

Almost every speaker was a right wing politician doing the same. If that’s mourning a death then please stay away from mine.

The idea that the left would have wanted this is nonsensical. The last thing they would have wanted was to gift the right a martyr figure.
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I have to say the part in bold was outrageous to say by Trump. It gave ammunition to all the people that dislike him. Totally wrong!
 
OneStevePerrin said:
I have to say the part in bold was outrageous to say by Trump. It gave ammunition to all the people that dislike him. Totally wrong!
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Does he care though? He won't be running again anyway and those who don't like him aren't going to be persuaded by anything he says. Were he a lifelong politician, or more willing to take advice, he might be more circumspect.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
Does he care though? He won't be running again anyway and those who don't like him aren't going to be persuaded by anything he says. Were he a lifelong politician, or more willing to take advice, he might be more circumspect.
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And tbh he is the President of the United States. He has enemies everywhere and already had at least 2 assassination attempts on his life that we know off. He has to act strong with the world and Russia watching.
 
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