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Badger11 said:
Whilst I agree with you isn't that what these social media influencers do anyway?

They jump on any bandwagon that is trending in the hope that they get more clicks (adverts and sponsorship). Within minutes of Jussie Smollet posting that he had been attacked by some MAGA's they were all piling in "Justice for Jussie", "I stand with Jussie", anyone with a brain on reading his post smelt a rat and steered clear.

Of course those people then develop amnesia when it became clear he was lying.

It's the world we live in now, full of people desperate for attention and not wanting a real job. They all hope they are the next Kardashian, hey it beats working for a living.

if I could make a living out of my BS posts I would. 😀
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You're right, but if only for the promotion of the truth we should never tire in calling it out.

When something is so clear cut as this.....direct lying and then, as you say 'amnesia', it needs to be called out.

A world without accountability is part why it's so fecked up.
 
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Wisbech Eagle said:
There is no deflection at all. It’s just pointing out the obvious truth that one individual does not, and cannot, be representative of a group. If the suspect turns out to have become a devoted follower of Chairman Mao it doesn’t mean the whole left thinking world wants to murder opponents. It just means that those on the political extremes take extreme actions. Both extremes. You can trawl through far right media to find online rage and poison. You don’t have to look that far. You can find it here too. In talking about the “left” as you do, you spread hate.

I don’t think the family have said he became “hard left”. They said he became political. Not that it really matters. What matters is that he is just a single individual.

The words from FBI Chief Patel yesterday were disgraceful. They show just how political the leadership of the FBI is under Trump as they weren’t measured and factual. They included the kind of opinions you are now spouting. Disgraceful!
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You are sidestepping the evidence again....

The FBI found discord chats, a note targeting Kirk, DNA on the weapon, and casings with leftist slogans. Robinsons family confirmed his recent far left turn which was fueled by the dark web message boards.

The doctors public outburst and resignation prove the rhetoric's impact. The pattern of leftist rage is undeniable. Denying it only shields the toxic ideology that you have become part of.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
More nonsense. I don’t know if you deliberately miss the point or genuinely just cannot understand it. Whatever evidence the FBI uncovers the guy is still an individual. Not a group.

Governor Cox, as well as making some emotional political remarks, has also talked some common sense about the need not to try to use this event to further divide by reference to other events involving Democrats as victims.

Read this:- https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/11/disagree-better-spencer-cox-stop-hate-00557293

The doctor resigned by email. Whether he was requested to is unknown. The nurse was not fired, or threatened. She decided to politicise it. Just as you are.

This isn’t a left problem. This is a USA problem. Not a single strand of politics problem. Those trying to cast it as such exacerbate the problem, rather than solving it.
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She is on indefinite suspension without pay......She literally has no money coming in and no indication if or when it does......Errr...you paying her rent mate? No, so the criticism is some cheek.

Indeed, the gall to accuse someone else of politicising when your comments don't give an accurate reflection of the truth.

Must have once been a marketing manager.
 
eaglesdare said:
You are sidestepping the evidence again....

The FBI found discord chats, a note targeting Kirk, DNA on the weapon, and casings with leftist slogans. Robinsons family confirmed his recent far left turn which was fueled by the dark web message boards.

The doctors public outburst and resignation prove the rhetoric's impact. The pattern of leftist rage is undeniable. Denying it only shields the toxic ideology that you have become part of.
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At least he is admitting now that Tyler Robinson is of the Left, a day or two ago he was denying that.
 
eaglesdare said:
You are sidestepping the evidence again....

The FBI found discord chats, a note targeting Kirk, DNA on the weapon, and casings with leftist slogans. Robinsons family confirmed his recent far left turn which was fueled by the dark web message boards.

The doctors public outburst and resignation prove the rhetoric's impact. The pattern of leftist rage is undeniable. Denying it only shields the toxic ideology that you have become part of.
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Why do you indulge such nonsense, seriously
 
Owen mentioning Robinson brings in a good point. The British version of the Charlie Kirk reaction would be Tommy Robinson.

Very different people, but probably equally hated by left wing activists.....One in America and one in the UK.

Their rhetoric and often lies are so extreme regarding Robinson that if it does happen the negative outcomes for them will be fully justified.....We only saw him attacked by a mentally ill person the other week....not the first time either.
 
HKOwen said:
Caught in the net of his own drivel now
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Well, we can expect far more of it as his favourite bow Trump is coming after the top funders of far left organisations.

Looks like the far left are going to be in for a bumpy ride.

Zero sympathy after what the Democrats did to the Proud Boys.

They are going to reap what they sowed......Bright people wouldn't have started.....but it's an observation I have of these people, they bet everything on red and risk it all.....they get warned at the time and ignore you.

Then when they get negative consequences they act like they are the victimised......the worse kind of people.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Well, we can expect far more of it as his favourite bow Trump is coming after the top funders of far left organisations.

Looks like the far left are going to be in for a bumpy ride.

Zero sympathy after what the Democrats did to the Proud Boys.

They are going to reap what they sowed......Bright people wouldn't have started.....but it's an observation I have of these people, they bet everything on red and risk it all.....they get warned at the time and ignore you.

Then when they get negative consequences they act like they are the victimised......the worse kind of people.
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I sure hope the likes of Trump, Vance, musk and farage up their security. We all know what the left are capable of and the more they get squeezed the more dangerous they become.

Thier toxic ideology won't be going away without a fight. But I look forward to it blinkering out.
 
eaglesdare said:
I sure hope the likes of Trump, Vance, musk and farage up their security. We all know what the left are capable of and the more they get squeezed the more dangerous they become.

Thier toxic ideology won't be going away without a fight. But I look forward to it blinkering out.
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Like all ideas, whether they are on the left or right, once they have a foothold you can't get rid of them.....But you reduce its power and influence.

The alphabet/transgender/Antifa mindset is here to stay, however Trump and the US can and it looks likely will go after them now.....the Charlie Kirk murder was over the line for them (well any normal human being) and they have resolved to go after far left funding.......Much as Biden went after the 'far right' and how social liberal governments do all over Europe. This guy was probably radicalized at the universities......At lot of the left went, 'meh' at the Charlie Kirk murder.....In the US I don't think they realise what's coming.

Then again, we will see how much talk translates into reality.

But elite funding was how these groups managed to get into institutions and get laws changed and punishing those who fund it is how you start to reduce their power....it's their own playbook. Most of their support outside of activists and paid representatives is 'go along to get alongs'......Same as any other ideology left or right.......We are going to see a lot fewer of them.

I think Hollywood and certain parts of the gaming industry are probably going to feel the heat....Will we see a lot of sackings of our purple haired nose ringed friends? We will see.

The people who worked to get others cancelled and sacked are going...in some cases already have...to get a taste of their own medicine.
 
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eaglesdare said:
Another mask has slipped. This time by a fire department chief.

www.foxnews.com

Cleveland fire chief removed from duty over 'incendiary' Charlie Kirk social media post

Mayor Justin Bibb placed Cleveland Fire Chief Anthony P. Luke on leave over an insensitive social media post about Charlie Kirk's assassination, calling it incendiary.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
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Paid leave.....The elephant in the drawing represents the Republican party (that being their symbol) and the gun obviously relates to Kirk being shot.

It's clearly unacceptable......these aren't jokes, this guy was brutally murdered....it's not ignoring his pronouns or misgendering or dead naming or any other of their mad nonsense.

I note the nurse was put on indefinite suspension without pay for essentially bringing to light a Doctor celebrating Kirk's murder.

Yet at the moment this guy doesn't lose a cent.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Paid leave.....The elephant in the drawing represents the Republican party (that being their symbol) and the gun obviously relates to Kirk being shot.

It's clearly unacceptable......these aren't jokes, this guy was brutally murdered....it's not ignoring his pronouns or misgendering or dead naming or any other of their mad nonsense.

I note the nurse was put on indefinite suspension without pay for essentially bringing to light a Doctor celebrating Kirk's murder.

Yet at the moment this guy doesn't lose a cent.
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Yes she was. I think she is back now and scheduled to work her shifts. I read somewhere.

To put on her on suspension in the first place for speaking up and making a complaint to HR really is not on and unacceptable.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
If you want to see progress towards equality and the weakening of male dominance to equal being “feminist”, fine. You carry on.

To me, and I suspect most others, it marks you as a misogynist.
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Tell us about 1 law, just ONE, where there is not equality in this country.

We're waiting.......

You want 50% women in everything, make sure you include building sites, oil rigs, fishing vessels, logistics, warehouses, ground working and other physical labour jobs. Oh no, you meant CEOs and bosses didn't you......News just in, MOST MEN don't get those jobs either duh.

You're a feminist, and not being a feminist (a female advocacy movement not an equality movement) doesn't mean you hate women, which is what misogyny is.
 
Meanwhile, Trump protesters are out, and of course they came with their made up Palestine flags and Gaza placards

 
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