US Politics

The father and mother have now lost thier son. Perhaps he has already been lost to them years ago. And they held out hope that he would return to them.

I hope they have some strength to carry on for for their other children. They will be in the limelight now and their whole world has come crashing down.
 
Forest Hillbilly said:
Doesn't really mean a lot. I've seen some pron sites with man-on-man action, and other variants. Doesn't mean it got me excited,........much 🙂

Know your enemy, and all that. Maybe it will make court, probably not,
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I would have sympathy for this view....to an extent (not the man-on-man action). 😀

If it weren't for the fact that if this was the other way around the left wouldn't not afford you the same nuance.

As we have seen on this site many times.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
Grok seems to think Tyler Robinson is a ‘groyper’, which is not a term I’d ever heard before:

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Please explain where you got that from?

Because I've directly asked Grok and it produced nothing like that.

You do understand that AI programs can be manipulated into giving answers like that if the questioner asks for an answer like it. I note that we don't see the question.
 
Here I ask Grok this question:

What is grok's analysis of Tyler Robinson's political stance.

This is the answer I had back.

Based on available information regarding the shooting of Charlie Kirk on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University, here is an analysis of Tyler Robinson's political stance:
  • Voter Registration: Robinson registered as unaffiliated in 2021 and did not vote in the 2022 or 2024 elections, indicating no formal party allegiance.
  • Family Background: Raised in a conservative, Mormon household with Republican parents, but reportedly became "more political" recently, diverging from his upbringing.
  • Statements: He expressed strong dislike for Kirk, calling him "full of hate and spreading hate" in a family conversation, suggesting opposition to conservative figures.
  • Forensic Evidence: Unfired cartridges found with the murder weapon had antifascist engravings (e.g., "Hey fascist! Catch!" and references to an anti-fascist song), pointing to antifascist ideology.
  • Digital Activity: Discord messages showed premeditation but no explicit political posts; their tone aligns with online antifascist or left-leaning communities.
  • Motive: Authorities describe the shooting as a "political assassination," with evidence suggesting Robinson targeted Kirk due to his conservative activism.
Conclusion: Tyler Robinson's political stance appears to be left-leaning and antifascist, driven by opposition to conservative figures like Kirk. His recent shift from a conservative background, combined with antifascist symbols and rhetoric, suggests self-radicalization, possibly via online influences, though he’s not tied to any formal group. This analysis is based on verified reports, avoiding unconfirmed speculation.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Please explain where you got that from?

Because I've directly asked Grok and it produced nothing like that.

You do understand that AI programs can be manipulated into giving answers like that if the questioner asks for an answer like it. I note that we don't see the question.
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It’s a screenshot doing the rounds on social media - many include the original question which was “in your opinion Grok what do these symbols track his political belief in?”

The 4chan/meme theory seems credible.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
It’s a screenshot doing the rounds on social media - many include the original question which was “in your opinion Grok what do these symbols track his political belief in?”

The 4chan/meme theory seems credible.
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Well you have just seen an output of Grok being asked his political beliefs based upon the evidence.

I suggest the posts you are seeing are of dubious reliability.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Here I ask Grok this question:

What is grok's analysis of Tyler Robinson's political stance.

This is the answer I had back.

Based on available information regarding the shooting of Charlie Kirk on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University, here is an analysis of Tyler Robinson's political stance:
  • Voter Registration: Robinson registered as unaffiliated in 2021 and did not vote in the 2022 or 2024 elections, indicating no formal party allegiance.
  • Family Background: Raised in a conservative, Mormon household with Republican parents, but reportedly became "more political" recently, diverging from his upbringing.
  • Statements: He expressed strong dislike for Kirk, calling him "full of hate and spreading hate" in a family conversation, suggesting opposition to conservative figures.
  • Forensic Evidence: Unfired cartridges found with the murder weapon had antifascist engravings (e.g., "Hey fascist! Catch!" and references to an anti-fascist song), pointing to antifascist ideology.
  • Digital Activity: Discord messages showed premeditation but no explicit political posts; their tone aligns with online antifascist or left-leaning communities.
  • Motive: Authorities describe the shooting as a "political assassination," with evidence suggesting Robinson targeted Kirk due to his conservative activism.
Conclusion: Tyler Robinson's political stance appears to be left-leaning and antifascist, driven by opposition to conservative figures like Kirk. His recent shift from a conservative background, combined with antifascist symbols and rhetoric, suggests self-radicalization, possibly via online influences, though he’s not tied to any formal group. This analysis is based on verified reports, avoiding unconfirmed speculation.
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Artificial or not, this is a terrible conclusion for any form of intelligence to come up with.

The sum of evidence that he’s antifa or left wing is that he hated Kirk? Even though this Groyper movement seems to very publicly share the same view.


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I wouldn't have even confessed to scrumping apples to my dad.

He would have beaten the living 5hlt out of me. That's where modern discipline has failed 🙂
 
CPFCSaturn said:
Artificial or not, this is a terrible conclusion for any form of intelligence to come up with.

The sum of evidence that he’s antifa or left wing is that he hated Kirk? Even though this Groyper movement seems to very publicly share the same view.


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The evidence includes family discussion and antifa discord involvement and anti fascist writings on the bullet casings. Does that sound like a 'Groyper' to you?

Fuentes has never suggested people physically harm Kirk, they were political opponents certainly but this sounds like desperate distraction and the worst kind of cope from the far left to me.

They can't accept that their ideology is being correctly blamed for this horrendous murder.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
They are just as reliable as the posts you are seeing.

That Grok post you just shared is genuinely illogical.
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How is it illogical?

I would like to ask Grok the exact same question that you claim was just as reliable as mine so I can firstly see that it's not trying to manipulate Grok and secondly to see that it gives out the same response.

If what you produced was 'just as reliable'.
Kindly provide me the inputs that was used to create it as 'in your opinion Grok what do these symbols track his political belief in?' does not do that.
 
Stirlingsays said:
The evidence includes family discussion and antifa discord involvement and anti fascist writings on the bullet casings. Does that sound like a 'Groyper' to you?

Fuentes has never suggested people physically harm Kirk, they were political opponents certainly but this sounds like desperate distraction and the worst kind of cope from the far left to me.

They can't accept that their ideology is being correctly blamed for this horrendous murder.
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No it doesn’t - it literally acknowledges the discord messages showed no political posts, only premeditation.

The writings on the casings seem to be far more consistent with the trolling/meme stuff than any anti fascist writings. The suggestions seems to be that they are references from a game called Helldivers 2
 
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