Transfer window closed

How do you rate the window out of 10..??

In

Yeremy Pino €30M
Jaydee Canvot €23M
Borna Sosa €2.3M
Walter Benetiz - free
Christantus Uche - loan

Spend €55.3M

Out

Odsonne Edouard - €4M
Franca Umeh-Chibueze - loan
Matheus Franca - loan
Eberechi Eze - €78M
Jemiah Umolu - loan
Malcolm Ebiowei - undisclosed
Rob Holding - free
David Ozoh - Loan
Tayo Adaramola - loan
Danny Imray - loan
Jo Whitworth - loan
Owen Goodman - loan
Sean Grehan - undisclosed

Net spend -€26.7M - so profit

For me only I “first teamer” out and 5 in - including a keeper - so on the face of it we’ve strengthened in quality and depth - albeit the one out was Ebs - but encouraged from the little we’ve seen from Pino, add to that Uche..

But the usual SP procrastination ensued culminating in yesterdays Guehi fiasco..!!

Why on earth SP thought Brightons 5th/6th choice centre back would be adequate replacement for Guehi is beyond me..!!

Strategically the window has been a shambles - no plan, no strategy - again I cite yesterday as yesterday as a prime example..

But there was more too much focus on the Europa/Conference thing - an argument we were never going to win the moment Lyon were reinstated to League 1.

We’re now in a position where Chairman and Manager have publicly disagreed - leaving us with a very unhappy Manager and Captain, which can only be disruptive.

Having just won the FA Cup, Charity Shield and qualified for Europe for the first time - I was expecting more investment - for example we’re still a centre mid short - could have got Gallagher..

Then the delays in transfer dealings meant we were ridiculously short in our early games - 2 keepers on a numbers light bench in Europe.

Due to the lack of numbers players got injured Sarr - hamstring out return 2/10, Wharton abductor - no return date.

This is all due to not doing our Business sooner and getting quality depth in earlier..!! When will SP ever learn..!!

So for me it’s a paltry 3 - mainly down to the procrastination and the impact that has now had..!!

COYP
 
There seems to be some confusion on the Eze transfer and it's important that fans know what we really made because otherwise the idea could be given that we are more flush than we are:

Crystal Palace sold Eberechi Eze to Arsenal for a total fee of £67.5 million, structured as a guaranteed £60 million upfront plus up to £7.5 million in performance-related add-ons.

QPR, included a 15% sell-on clause in its 2020 transfer to Palace (for up to £19.5 million, typically cited as £17 million initial plus £2.5 million add-ons). This clause entitles QPR to 15% of Palace's profit on the resale.
  • Original cost to Palace: £17 million (base fee; add-ons are not always deducted for sell-on purposes, but sources confirm the profit base uses this figure).
  • Profit for Palace: £67.5 million - £17 million = £50.5 million.
  • QPR's percentage: 15% of £50.5 million = £7.575 million (rounded to approximately £7.6 million in some reports, but precisely £7.575 million based on the full fee).
  • QPR's share if only guaranteed fee applies initially: 15% of (£60 million - £17 million) = 15% of £43 million = £6.45 million. The add-ons (£7.5 million) would add a further 15% of £7.5 million = £1.125 million once triggered, but sources treat the full £67.5 million as the basis for the clause, yielding the higher figure upfront.
Key Figures
  • Sale to Arsenal: £67.5 million (total fee, including £60 million guaranteed + up to £7.5 million in add-ons).
  • Original cost to Palace: £17 million (base fee paid to QPR in 2020, as confirmed for profit calculations).
  • QPR's sell-on clause: 15% of Palace's profit, calculated as £7.575 million (based on the full £67.5 million sale).
Profit Calculation
  1. Gross profit before sell-on clause:
    • Sale price: £67.5 million
    • Original cost: £17 million
    • Gross profit = £67.5 million - £17 million = £50.5 million
  2. Deduction for QPR's sell-on clause:
    • QPR's share: £7.575 million (15% of £50.5 million profit)
    • Net profit for Palace = £50.5 million - £7.575 million = £42.925 million
After all deductions (original cost and QPR's sell-on clause), Crystal Palace's profit on Eze is approximately £42.9 million (rounded to one decimal place). For a more conservative estimate of looking at it:
  • Gross profit = £60 million - £17 million = £43 million
  • QPR's share = 15% of £43 million = £6.45 million
  • Net profit = £43 million - £6.45 million = £36.55 million
However, since sources treat the full £67.5 million as the basis for the sell-on clause (yielding £7.575 million to QPR), the £42.9 million figure is the most accurate for Palace's profit, assuming all add-ons are included in the calculation.
 
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Plaistow Eagle said:
How do you rate the window out of 10..??

In

Yeremy Pino €30M
Jaydee Canvot €23M
Borna Sosa €2.3M
Walter Benetiz - free
Christantus Uche - loan

Spend €55.3M

Out

Odsonne Edouard - €4M
Franca Umeh-Chibueze - loan
Matheus Franca - loan
Eberechi Eze - €78M
Jemiah Umolu - loan
Malcolm Ebiowei - undisclosed
Rob Holding - free
David Ozoh - Loan
Tayo Adaramola - loan
Danny Imray - loan
Jo Whitworth - loan
Owen Goodman - loan
Sean Grehan - undisclosed

Net spend -€26.7M - so profit

For me only I “first teamer” out and 5 in - including a keeper - so on the face of it we’ve strengthened in quality and depth - albeit the one out was Ebs - but encouraged from the little we’ve seen from Pino, add to that Uche..

But the usual SP procrastination ensued culminating in yesterdays Guehi fiasco..!!

Why on earth SP thought Brightons 5th/6th choice centre back would be adequate replacement for Guehi is beyond me..!!

Strategically the window has been a shambles - no plan, no strategy - again I cite yesterday as yesterday as a prime example..

But there was more too much focus on the Europa/Conference thing - an argument we were never going to win the moment Lyon were reinstated to League 1.

We’re now in a position where Chairman and Manager have publicly disagreed - leaving us with a very unhappy Manager and Captain, which can only be disruptive.

Having just won the FA Cup, Charity Shield and qualified for Europe for the first time - I was expecting more investment - for example we’re still a centre mid short - could have got Gallagher..

Then the delays in transfer dealings meant we were ridiculously short in our early games - 2 keepers on a numbers light bench in Europe.

Due to the lack of numbers players got injured Sarr - hamstring out return 2/10, Wharton abductor - no return date.

This is all due to not doing our Business sooner and getting quality depth in earlier..!! When will SP ever learn..!!

So for me it’s a paltry 3 - mainly down to the procrastination and the impact that has now had..!!

COYP
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I wonder what you rated your missus when you met her, or her BJ’s?

A 4, or a 5 if it was sunny or you were in a good mood after she made you a bacon sandwich?
 
Stirlingsays said:
There seems to be some confusion on the Eze transfer and it's important that fans know what we really made because otherwise the idea could be given that we are more flush than we are:

Crystal Palace sold Eberechi Eze to Arsenal for a total fee of £67.5 million, structured as a guaranteed £60 million upfront plus up to £7.5 million in performance-related add-ons.

QPR, included a 15% sell-on clause in his 2020 transfer to Palace (for up to £19.5 million, typically cited as £17 million initial plus £2.5 million add-ons). This clause entitles QPR to 15% of Palace's profit on the resale.
  • Original cost to Palace: £17 million (base fee; add-ons are not always deducted for sell-on purposes, but sources confirm the profit base uses this figure).
  • Profit for Palace: £67.5 million - £17 million = £50.5 million.
  • QPR's percentage: 15% of £50.5 million = £7.575 million (rounded to approximately £7.6 million in some reports, but precisely £7.575 million based on the full fee).
  • QPR's share if only guaranteed fee applies initially: 15% of (£60 million - £17 million) = 15% of £43 million = £6.45 million. The add-ons (£7.5 million) would add a further 15% of £7.5 million = £1.125 million once triggered, but sources treat the full £67.5 million as the basis for the clause, yielding the higher figure upfront.
Key Figures
  • Sale to Arsenal: £67.5 million (total fee, including £60 million guaranteed + up to £7.5 million in add-ons).
  • Original cost to Palace: £17 million (base fee paid to QPR in 2020, as confirmed for profit calculations).
  • QPR's sell-on clause: 15% of Palace's profit, calculated as £7.575 million (based on the full £67.5 million sale).
Profit Calculation
  1. Gross profit before sell-on clause:
    • Sale price: £67.5 million
    • Original cost: £17 million
    • Gross profit = £67.5 million - £17 million = £50.5 million
  2. Deduction for QPR's sell-on clause:
    • QPR's share: £7.575 million (15% of £50.5 million profit)
    • Net profit for Palace = £50.5 million - £7.575 million = £42.925 million
After all deductions (original cost and QPR's sell-on clause), Crystal Palace's profit on Eze is approximately £42.9 million (rounded to one decimal place). This is slightly lower than your estimate of £44 million, as the QPR sell-on clause takes a precise £7.575 million from the gross profit.If we consider only the guaranteed £60 million (excluding add-ons) for a more conservative estimate:
  • Gross profit = £60 million - £17 million = £43 million
  • QPR's share = 15% of £43 million = £6.45 million
  • Net profit = £43 million - £6.45 million = £36.55 million
However, since sources treat the full £67.5 million as the basis for the sell-on clause (yielding £7.575 million to QPR), the £42.9 million figure is the most accurate for Palace's profit, assuming all add-ons are included in the calculation. If you meant a different deduction (e.g., agent fees or other costs).
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All very nice - but what’s your point..!!

Are you seriously suggesting that our available funds in the transfer window is solely dictated by the funds generated by the Eze sale..??

If so where has all the money from previous sales, league, sponsorship, gate receipts Sky/TV revenue etc.. gone..??

Beyond that Parish aside we have owners with a combined wealth of £17Bn..!!

Before you say it I get that rich owners doesn’t automatically mean funds to spend - but other clubs seem to do it with imaginative accounting - how/why are we any different..??
 
Plaistow Eagle said:
All very nice - but what’s your point..!!
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I said what the point was in the opening paragraph. Why on earth would you need to ask?

You wrote in your post that selling Eze meant 78 million was incoming.

Plaistow Eagle said:
Are you seriously suggesting that our available funds in the transfer window is solely dictated by the funds generated by the Eze sale..??
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? No.

Are you on drugs?

Plaistow Eagle said:
If so where has all the money from previous sales, league, sponsorship, gate receipts Sky/TV revenue etc.. gone..??
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Email the appropriate person at Palace if you want to know......though, as they are a private business I'm not sure if they have to tell you.

Plaistow Eagle said:
Beyond that Parish aside we have owners with a combined wealth of £17Bn..!!
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So what, rich people decide what they spend their money on the same as you do.

Plaistow Eagle said:
Before you say it I get that rich owners doesn’t automatically mean funds to spend - but other clubs seem to do it with imaginative accounting - how/why are we any different..??
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What makes you think you have a right to know?
 
Stirlingsays said:
I said what the point was in the opening paragraph. Why on earth would you need to ask?

You wrote in your post that selling Eze meant 78 million was incoming.



? No.

Are you on drugs?



Email the appropriate person at Palace if you want to know......though, as they are a private business I'm not sure if they have to tell you.



So what, rich people decide what they spend their money on the same as you do.



What makes you think you have a right to know?
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Cage rattled..!!

So again what was the point of your post in the context with this thread..??

Anyway you’re wrong the £17M we paid for Eze what 5 years ago would have been paid off..!!

Simple example you buy your house with a mortgage, pay off that mortgage and sell the house - you don’t then reduce your profit with the purchase price to show your net profit - as you’ve already paid off the debt..!!

In relation to QPR sell on clause it’s correct because that would have been on profit over the £17M - but in terms of Palace’s profit that £17M has been paid off..!!
 
Fanofzhiyi said:
That is a great point regards Diomande. If Liverpool had paid the fee earlier rather than lowballing we could have had him and this whole scenario would never have been an issue
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I understand that Diamonde may have fallen through because he wanted assurance of Europa League rather than ECL football and as we couldn't give that assurance so we had to look at other options.
 
Plaistow Eagle said:
Cage rattled..!!
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More bemused.

You started posting at me, not the other way around.

Plaistow Eagle said:
So again what was the point of your post in the context with this thread..??

Anyway you’re wrong the £17M we paid for Eze what 5 years ago would have been paid off..!!
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So what?

You still deal in profit from the actual deal itself.

Perhaps we are talking at cross purposes.

Plaistow Eagle said:
Simple example you buy your house with a mortgage, pay off that mortgage and sell the house - you don’t then reduce your profit with the purchase price to show your net profit - as you’ve already paid off the debt..!!

In relation to QPR sell on clause it’s correct because that would have been on profit over the £17M - but in terms of Palace’s profit that £17M has been paid off..!!
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My impression is that you seem to want to know Crystal Palace's actual underlying financial state for some reason....perhaps you feel a fast one is being pulled.
 
doombear said:
I understand that Diamonde may have fallen through because he wanted assurance of Europa League rather than ECL football and as we couldn't give that assurance so we had to look at other options.
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Don’t think the Diomande thing is dead - he was clearly our primary target..!!

But come January when Sporting more than likely out of the ECL - do we go back in…!!

Guess all depends on our position at the time in terms of the League, progression in Europe etc..

As I understand a player who has played in the ECL is not cup tied from the Conference - is that correct..??
 
dreamwaverider said:
Never a dull moment!
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Not sure about that. I've seen some pretty awful football over the years. How many times have I said. I'm not coming back to watch more of this garbage and guess what happened when the next home game came around? There's always that little voice that says "it can't be as bad again". Ha ha!

Can't understand all the current negativity. As a former British PM said "You've never had it so good"
 
Stirlingsays said:
More bemused.

You started posting at me, not the other way around.



So what?

You still deal in profit from the actual deal itself.

Perhaps we are talking at cross purposes.



My impression is that you seem to want to know Crystal Palace's actual underlying financial state for some reason....perhaps you feel a fast one is being pulled.
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Mate

In your calculations you took the £17M off the Eze transfer fee in the first line, then based all your subsequent numbers on that. I’m merely pointing out that the debt (original transfer fee) has been paid off and accounted for..!!

I didn’t start posting you - just commented on your post..!!

Not at all - my question is a simple one - why can’t we invest like other clubs seem to able to..??

I would have thought / hoped that off the back of the success last season our investment would have been more..!!

COYP
 
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