The Tories have suffered many bruising bumps on their descent from government to a 110 M.P.s many of who have jumped ship to Reform after the last year,the latest effort at resusitation is a shuffling of the deck chairs on the Tory Titanic as it lists badly in icy waters. A shadow government re-shuffle,which is an admission that things aren't working as they are, this is Badenoch (Willo did not vote for her) not doing the right thing and going but like David Brent "its not me it's the staff". Apparently they are staking there hopes on James Clever clogs, good luck with that.You know the idiot who made a bad taste rohypnol.Thank god he is back he makes geniuses of us all.
Tories - the dead body twitches.
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NEILLO
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The Tories have been pretty hopeless ever since Dave painted himself into a corner over Brexit.
Having Badenoch as a leader is proof of how far that Party have sunk.
If you have the view that a re-shuffle is a sign of things not going well, which I agree actually, consider this ; Starmer reshuffled his Shadow Cabinet five times: in June 2020, May 2021, June 2021, November 2021 and 2023.
Labour are currently a hapless Government with only a feeble opposition.
A role reversal pre July 24
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Apropos the forthcoming "Refresh" what was originally meant to be limited with most of the changes planned for September now has the potential not just to be a shuffling of the deckchairs, but bringing some fresh,new faces around the shadow cabinet table.
This could include the 2024 intake of MPs who are untarnished by the actions of previous Conservative governments, alongside more seasoned MPs who never found themselves in a ministerial role or quite made it to the top of their departments.
I would not be surprised if the likes of Matt Vickers, Gareth Davies,Neil O'Brien, Nick Timothy, Katie Lam,Harriet Cross etc etc gained a promotion.
This could include the 2024 intake of MPs who are untarnished by the actions of previous Conservative governments, alongside more seasoned MPs who never found themselves in a ministerial role or quite made it to the top of their departments.
I would not be surprised if the likes of Matt Vickers, Gareth Davies,Neil O'Brien, Nick Timothy, Katie Lam,Harriet Cross etc etc gained a promotion.
Sometimes it is just a Minister has got caught with his trousers around his ankles. It is hard to see a Tory re-shuffle with not many to choose from We might lose Willo as waffle minister.😎
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What labour should try, there is enough time. is being a labour government.
I think the public has marked labour's card already, they are just getting more of what they wanted rid of.
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I’m sure we could find another poster to take his place
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They have been pretty hopeless since Thatcher stepped down.
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Perhaps you have a candidate in mind to wear the 'Crown'.😀
It does not look good for the Tories with that particular defection not just your run-of-the-mill type either. Speaks to a wider crisis. Makes me wonder if Reform now have several lined up, ready to feed them in at regular intervals? That would be the best way to play it.
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Reform is not a serious party of government. It is a vehicle for resentment, built on empty promises.
We Conservatives will certainly not be deflected from our mission to deliver on the 'Policy Renewal Programme' by a 'Green grasser' MP.
We really need more intellectual and moral depth in our politics, not one-note opportunists who simply catch the prevailing mood.
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The vast majority don't want that extreme left wing toss
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Those words may come back to bite you !
I've always viewed Farage as an ' agitator '. For a long time I thought he had no ambition to be a PM, but he's probably assessed the opposition and concluded that he couldn't do any worse. I think Reform is built not on resentment, rather it's the public exhaustion of trust in the two main parties.
All politicians are opportunists in my opinion. Recent events have shown that. All of them have their snouts in the trough to one degree or another.
I totally agree that the country needs more intellectual and moral government. Unfortunately I can't think of anyone in Westminster capable of delivering.
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Farage often gets compared to Trump.
It's nonsense of course, excepting that like Trump he does actually have his generation's genuine love of nation.
However they do share two distinct qualities in a politician if they are going to rise to the top. One is ruthlessness (not a nice trait) and like Trump....Farage has (in my view) wronged plenty of good rock solid conservatives.
Two, he can spot a genuine opportunity, people laughed at him when he entered the field.....Indeed, our very own Corny was very encouraging that Reform remain and split the Tory vote. But both mainstream parties have failed miserably amid a dramatic fall in elite quality and competence.
They aren't laughing now.....He's kicking their arse in the polls.
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Labour are foundering with poorly thought-out polices and political dead-ends and there is precious little to suggest that Reform would be any different.
They spout a good game but being able to grab headlines is not the same as being ready for office.
There are those who believe that Badenoch is not the right person to lead the Conservatives into the next election but whatever her shortcomings she will not sell one a cure if she doesn't have one.
I think you could say that about most policial parties at one time.
They start off as protest movements e.g. Trade unions becoming Labour and the Greens (still trying) and at some point they have to move from being against something to having policies on which they can be judged and elected. The Tories have the luxury of doing this for 300 years.
The three main parties are pretty good at hoovering up young talent that is interested in politics. There are only so many people who see their future in that direction and Labour/Tory/Lib Dems get first pick of the crop.
So any new party is fighting against the established institutions and at first may not have access to the brightest and the best. The first labour government was a bit of a shambles. However in time as they establish themselves they become serious policial parties.
So Reform is on that road, whether it makes it, I really can't say but adding experience from the Tory party should help.
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The trouble with Reform taking these Tories is that, in the end they will look too Tory to vote for.
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We Conservatives are renewing our party, we are in the midst of an extensive and comprehensive 'Policy Renewal Programme'. We are in preparation to rebuild our country.We fully accept there will be bumps in the road, but we are on the right track. Reform rhetoric consists of spouting that all problems are easily navigated and solved. Their road is not littered with obstacles.Attention-seeking pie-in-the-sky.
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Why don't you try pursuing some actual conservative policies.