Tommy Robinson

McAhuna said:
The only (real life) friend I have who attends the Tommy Robinson rallies is a black, female, Christian reggae DJ.
I think she gets edited out the BBC footage.
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They don't get it. It's never about race. It's about whose side you're on.

Are you pro British? Do you embrace British culture or do you want to subvert it? Are you pro Law and order or a criminal? Are you a contributor or a leech?
Do you want to integrate, or form your own permanent enclave?
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
They don't get it. It's never about race. It's about whose side you're on.

Are you pro British? Do you embrace British culture or do you want to subvert it? Are you pro Law and order or a criminal? Are you a contributor or a leech?
Do you want to integrate, or form your own permanent enclave?
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The answer to all of those is obviously yes, but they are the wrong questions. They are, with due respect, naive, when every genuine citizen will say yes. Stating the obvious gets us nowhere.

The real questions are how we do it, in what order do we do things and how do we afford it?

Questions that have either been ignored or unrealistically answered by politicians for decades.

That they are no longer ignored is a good thing, but the current wave of populist sentiment that thinks the unrealistic answers are the solution is not. It will make things worse.

These are problems that will take generations to solve. None of us will see a result in our lifetimes. Time being the greatest source of solutions as new generations find the ways to adapt, respect and blend. That said there are things to be done. We need leaders who are unafraid to criticise but do so fairly and objectivity and then introduce educational policies that teach the benefits of harmony.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
The answer to all of those is obviously yes, but they are the wrong questions. They are, with due respect, naive, when every genuine citizen will say yes. Stating the obvious gets us nowhere.

The real questions are how we do it, in what order do we do things and how do we afford it?

Questions that have either been ignored or unrealistically answered by politicians for decades.

That they are no longer ignored is a good thing, but the current wave of populist sentiment that thinks the unrealistic answers are the solution is not. It will make things worse.

These are problems that will take generations to solve. None of us will see a result in our lifetimes. Time being the greatest source of solutions as new generations find the ways to adapt, respect and blend. That said there are things to be done. We need leaders who are unafraid to criticise but do so fairly and objectivity and then introduce educational policies that teach the benefits of harmony.
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All of the problems being experienced are due to the disastrous policies championed by the likes of yourself over decades.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
The answer to all of those is obviously yes, but they are the wrong questions. They are, with due respect, naive, when every genuine citizen will say yes. Stating the obvious gets us nowhere.

The real questions are how we do it, in what order do we do things and how do we afford it?

Questions that have either been ignored or unrealistically answered by politicians for decades.

That they are no longer ignored is a good thing, but the current wave of populist sentiment that thinks the unrealistic answers are the solution is not. It will make things worse.

These are problems that will take generations to solve. None of us will see a result in our lifetimes. Time being the greatest source of solutions as new generations find the ways to adapt, respect and blend. That said there are things to be done. We need leaders who are unafraid to criticise but do so fairly and objectivity and then introduce educational policies that teach the benefits of harmony.
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It might be a bit late when according to the last census London, Birmingham, Manchester and Leicester, among others, already have populations which are less than 50% white British.
 
You'll probably guess that I'm not a fan of Yaxley-Lennon but whatever my opinions on him, I have to say that the Daily Mail, scabrous publication that it is, has the temerity to bring him to court over intimidation and threat charges to their journalists.

Yes, scabrous journal; publishing the whereabouts of him and his family to the general public. Absolutely shameful and downright dangerous for him and his family. Given the everyday treats to politicians, after the murders of several of them, the Mail has just sunk to the very bottom of the pile, if they weren't there already.

Good luck to YL if he punched the journalists' lights out. Scum

As a point of interest, YL's legal fees are being paid by Musk, the arch supporter of apartheid, meddler in British politics who'd like to see Lennon as PM.
 
Glazier#1 said:
You'll probably guess that I'm not a fan of Yaxley-Lennon but whatever my opinions on him, I have to say that the Daily Mail, scabrous publication that it is, has the temerity to bring him to court over intimidation and threat charges to their journalists.

Yes, scabrous journal; publishing the whereabouts of him and his family to the general public. Absolutely shameful and downright dangerous for him and his family. Given the everyday treats to politicians, after the murders of several of them, the Mail has just sunk to the very bottom of the pile, if they weren't there already.

Good luck to YL if he punched the journalists' lights out. Scum

As a point of interest, YL's legal fees are being paid by Musk, the arch supporter of apartheid, meddler in British politics who'd like to see Lennon as PM.
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I agree. So it is fine for reporters to pursue public figures down the road, camp outside their houses, knock on the doors of neighbours trying to find dirt and in the case of Diana pursue her car. That is all in the name of the free press.

However when a target then turns on the press and gives them a taste of what they have to put up with the poor little lams go running to the police.

I have no time for TR but I hope he wins. There is a fine line between investigative journalism and stalking.

I am surprised that a public figure hasn't published a list of misdeed by journalists and called them hypocrites. I would be amazed if journalists hadn't had affairs, took drugs, fiddled their expenses or taxes. They are certainly not the moral guardians they claim to be.
 
Glazier#1 said:
You'll probably guess that I'm not a fan of Yaxley-Lennon but whatever my opinions on him, I have to say that the Daily Mail, scabrous publication that it is, has the temerity to bring him to court over intimidation and threat charges to their journalists.

Yes, scabrous journal; publishing the whereabouts of him and his family to the general public. Absolutely shameful and downright dangerous for him and his family. Given the everyday treats to politicians, after the murders of several of them, the Mail has just sunk to the very bottom of the pile, if they weren't there already.

Good luck to YL if he punched the journalists' lights out. Scum

As a point of interest, YL's legal fees are being paid by Musk, the arch supporter of apartheid, meddler in British politics who'd like to see Lennon as PM.
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I agree with you about publishing his address, absolutely awful. Presumably you felt the same when Farage’s details were published? Anyone in tve public eye, should, at least, have their addresses kept private
 
Badger11 said:
I agree. So it is fine for reporters to pursue public figures down the road, camp outside their houses, knock on the doors of neighbours trying to find dirt and in the case of Diana pursue her car. That is all in the name of the free press.

However when a target then turns on the press and gives them a taste of what they have to put up with the poor little lams go running to the police.

I have no time for TR but I hope he wins. There is a fine line between investigative journalism and stalking.

I am surprised that a public figure hasn't published a list of misdeed by journalists and called them hypocrites. I would be amazed if journalists hadn't had affairs, took drugs, fiddled their expenses or taxes. They are certainly not the moral guardians they claim to be.
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For the most part, I think paparazzi are scum and have no morals whatsoever. Vile.
 
Another one who is no fan of 'Tel Aviv Tommy', BUT you have question the wisdom/logic of the CPS bringing this case. There is a video doing the rounds that was presented by the prosecution which makes little to no sense as TR is actually very reasonable in it, pointing out that the journalists really stepped over a line and destroyed a family holiday for him by confronting him whilst with his children.

Do they actually want him to win this case?
 
Matov said:
Another one who is no fan of 'Tel Aviv Tommy', BUT you have question the wisdom/logic of the CPS bringing this case. There is a video doing the rounds that was presented by the prosecution which makes little to no sense as TR is actually very reasonable in it, pointing out that the journalists really stepped over a line and destroyed a family holiday for him by confronting him whilst with his children.

Do they actually want him to win this case?
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I think we already know the answer to the question.
 
The issue here is not whether the Mail or YL were right. Neither were. They are both things that have no place in our society.

The problem for YL is that it is well known that he can easily be wound up and react. He has lots of previous. So whilst what was being done to him was disgusting he still needed to restrain himself.

A year or two ago my wife got into a confrontation with another lady. It doesn’t matter the reason but the other was bang out of order, completely wrong in her assertions yet very aggressive. My wife wanted to punch her she was so angry. I restrained her and led her away, telling her not to demean herself. YL needs to do the same. Violence never achieves anything.
 
Whatever you think of TR it has never been a race issue with him, unless you consider Islam to be a race.

Similar to the jew hating imbeciles on here who consider Judaism to be a race.
 
Glazier#1 said:
I think paparazzi are scum and have no morals whatsoever. Vile.
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who are worse : the paedo's who produce the content or the scum who consume it ?

Paparazzi are scum, indeed. But what about the teeming masses who lapped it up. Princess Diana being a case in point. The demand for photos was enormous. Money drives behaviours.
 
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