Hrolf The Ganger
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It's not my claim. I'm just putting it up for discussion.
You are just another leftist trying to pretend it's all propaganda.
The Left/Islamist alliance.
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You are just another leftist trying to pretend it's all propaganda.
cryrst
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Maybe not and danh will now produce the figures. If you looked at the domestic murders, apart from honour killings by Muslims I would guess it is white men on white women only due to it being about 7 to 1 population. Now if you used the same 7 to 1 about rapes non whites win that race hands down pro rata.
PalazioVecchio
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Honour killings are dads killing their own daughters. You trying to say its not really that bad ?
Have you seriously posted this?
PalazioVecchio
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you request it so often, we will need to start charging a fee.
Now...........back to the OP.
Sadiq Khan. Where would he stand ?
Where are my apologies?
PalazioVecchio
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You are reminding me of the Monty Python 'i want to have an argument' sketch.
no its not, no its not, it isnt, got any evidence, not really, no, have you seriously posted this......'
but do please add to the arguments with facts and opinions........they would act as a decoration to the sensless contradiction and tut-tutting.
PalazioVecchio
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the thread is about an alleged Alliance between a) The Left and b) Islamists.
If the Trolls wish to disrupt any sensible discussions - with deliberate smoke and farts , its time to get the Mods involved.
www.breakingnews.ie
If the Trolls wish to disrupt any sensible discussions - with deliberate smoke and farts , its time to get the Mods involved.
Michelle O’Neill calls for rainbow of cultures as she attends Eid celebration | BreakingNews
The Sinn Féin vice president donned a hijab during the event at Davitts GAA club
www.breakingnews.ie
Weird asking for evidence to someone’s point isn’t it?
Wisbech Eagle
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There is and I have used it for a few posters whose attitude became insufferably rude. There are others though whose comments might be ridiculous but are worth reading for 2 reasons.
The first being that it allows you to see how the gullible on the right are being manipulated by misinformation and propaganda. The second being their comedic value.
Wisbech Eagle
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The blind hypocrisy of the right wing posters has reached new heights in this thread.
A thread that exists solely because the right wing media found something to wind them all up.
Any march like this is going to attract a disparate body of support. Many things can be presented in ways that are intended to confirm biases. Support for those suffering in Gaza presented as support for Hamas. Criticism of Israel presented as anti-Semitism.
You need to look beyond the headlines and the selected facts in the copy to find the actual truth.
A thread that exists solely because the right wing media found something to wind them all up.
Any march like this is going to attract a disparate body of support. Many things can be presented in ways that are intended to confirm biases. Support for those suffering in Gaza presented as support for Hamas. Criticism of Israel presented as anti-Semitism.
You need to look beyond the headlines and the selected facts in the copy to find the actual truth.
PalazioVecchio
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at least he had a point Dan. Cos i am not clever enough to make out any of yours.
anyhoo.............The allegation of a Left/Islamist alliance ?
And how the link below relates to this discussion............ The norms of one country seem to be very different to other countries ?
Gay Iranian refugee forced to watch executions 'to know what to expect'
A gay Iranian refugee has said he was forced to watch executions so "we would know how they were going to kill us".
www.thepinknews.com
Trump says Iran 'throws the gays off buildings' in Jake Paul chat
Trump tried to discredit activists’ opposition towards the US military campaign against Iran by saying Iran ‘throws gays off buildings’.
www.thepinknews.com
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Living In Hope
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For what it’s worth, here’s my perspective. Firstly the consequences of Islamic honour killings and white British domestic abuse killings are the same, but I would point out that the obvious difference is one appears to be approved by its culture, the other despised by its culture.
Until the last 15 years or so most immigrants of whatever culture and religion arriving in this country were generally sympathetic to British culture and values, and came here because of the country’s freedom, tolerance and opportunity. They carved out livings and appreciated the fact that Britain accepts that its citizens should choose how they want to live and what they believe in. Generally they have contributed culturally and economically.
In more recent times a significant number of immigrants have instead brought their s**t with them, the very things which made people want to leave their countries of origin. Intolerance of difference, racism, sexism, homophobia, incompetence. Of course we had a little of it, but please don’t tell me that Britain wasn’t in the best 1% of countries in the world in this respect. I know – I lived through it, and spent spells living in Australia and France and I saw how much more advanced Britain was, particularly in its stance against racism.
It is not okay to come and live here and to import sexism so extreme that women cannot show their faces, to be violently anti-gay, to be so racist and sexist (and backward in your thinking) that you think it is okay to rape girls as long as they are infidels, to be so racist that you believe that the Jews have no right to the one country they have, one of the few in the world whose borders were defined legally by the UN rather than imposed by war. It is not okay to come here and seek to impose this on anyone else, even a local community. To bring an environment in which our Jewish citizens are now living in fear, their institutions requiring security unimaginable even 15 years ago (even their schools !).
If you haven’t noticed, there are quite a lot of those people now living in the UK, many with UK citizenship, but with no loyalty to Britain or to the values which historically made it such an attractive place to live. And also if you haven’t noticed, the far left are desperate to align themselves with these people.
So that is my right wing view. I don’t hate anyone, but there is a particular intolerant mindset and culture which has taken a foothold, and it cannot be allowed to thrive here, and it is not the right wing. What we need are people who are tolerant and accepting of one another’s ways, beliefs and lifestyles. Freedom, democracy, and above all tolerance please.
Until the last 15 years or so most immigrants of whatever culture and religion arriving in this country were generally sympathetic to British culture and values, and came here because of the country’s freedom, tolerance and opportunity. They carved out livings and appreciated the fact that Britain accepts that its citizens should choose how they want to live and what they believe in. Generally they have contributed culturally and economically.
In more recent times a significant number of immigrants have instead brought their s**t with them, the very things which made people want to leave their countries of origin. Intolerance of difference, racism, sexism, homophobia, incompetence. Of course we had a little of it, but please don’t tell me that Britain wasn’t in the best 1% of countries in the world in this respect. I know – I lived through it, and spent spells living in Australia and France and I saw how much more advanced Britain was, particularly in its stance against racism.
It is not okay to come and live here and to import sexism so extreme that women cannot show their faces, to be violently anti-gay, to be so racist and sexist (and backward in your thinking) that you think it is okay to rape girls as long as they are infidels, to be so racist that you believe that the Jews have no right to the one country they have, one of the few in the world whose borders were defined legally by the UN rather than imposed by war. It is not okay to come here and seek to impose this on anyone else, even a local community. To bring an environment in which our Jewish citizens are now living in fear, their institutions requiring security unimaginable even 15 years ago (even their schools !).
If you haven’t noticed, there are quite a lot of those people now living in the UK, many with UK citizenship, but with no loyalty to Britain or to the values which historically made it such an attractive place to live. And also if you haven’t noticed, the far left are desperate to align themselves with these people.
So that is my right wing view. I don’t hate anyone, but there is a particular intolerant mindset and culture which has taken a foothold, and it cannot be allowed to thrive here, and it is not the right wing. What we need are people who are tolerant and accepting of one another’s ways, beliefs and lifestyles. Freedom, democracy, and above all tolerance please.
cryrst
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Not at all. I’m saying that domestic murders are more likely predominantly by white men. Due to the amount of whites to non whites in the country.
PalazioVecchio
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London and New York both have a muslim Mayor.
Both had 9/11 and 7/7 terror attacks.
both now lean to the Left.
Discuss.
Both had 9/11 and 7/7 terror attacks.
both now lean to the Left.
Discuss.
PalazioVecchio
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The Chinese are very peaceful and law abiding. But in China, they will dominate all the murder statistics. Your argument is not valid.
List of cities by homicide rate - Wikipedia
at least he had a point Dan. Cos i am not clever enough to make out any of yours.
anyhoo.............The allegation of a Left/Islamist alliance ?
And how the link below relates to this discussion............ The norms of one country seem to be very different to other countries ?
Gay Iranian refugee forced to watch executions 'to know what to expect'
A gay Iranian refugee has said he was forced to watch executions so "we would know how they were going to kill us".
Trump says Iran 'throws the gays off buildings' in Jake Paul chat
Trump tried to discredit activists’ opposition towards the US military campaign against Iran by saying Iran ‘throws gays off buildings’.
Have you found any evidence to support the OP?
Spindle
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Although Dan was very clear that honour killings were included.
Surprised he wants to import more murders of women tbh
Spindle
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We don't know Dan, we're still waiting
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Chants of "Victory to Iran" presented as....er......