The Donald Trump thread

[Mark B]

Agree on WWII. Hitler could not be stopped. He had absolute power and was absolutely barking. And appeasement by us would have only bought a little time; and the UK would have ended up even worse off than we did.

Disagree on Iran. What Americans did they kill? Recent? Enough to go to war today? Israelis, perhaps, but that is their war.

Iran was heavily involved in Iraq in providing IEDs. But "recency" will be adjudicated by individuals, to you that is likely not recent but to me it would be.

Iranian support to the Houthis has also been an issue for global shipping. Hamas and Hezbollah are also part of that. The US wants out of the Middle East militarily and neutering Iran is part of that.

 

[Attilio1905]

I'm curious how you would have de-escalated WW2. I've spent a fair amount of time brain storming this with academics and I'm curious to hear your thoughts on it.

Iran is a regional problem and has been since 1979. Them killing and supporting the killing of Israelis and Americans are both a cause to go to war. Human beings don't actually go to war for human rights because the people who declare that they care about them prefer virtue signaling over actually doing anything. The same crowd also isn't doing anything real about climate change either but they still want to rant about it.

Speaking of Jags, their ability to obliterate their brand might be the only thing surpassing Trump's self inflicted wounds.

The academics you've been brainstorming with can't have been much cop if my simple post has managed to pique your curiosity. It wasnt Jason Arday, was it?

I'll tell you what, let me have my dinner and then i'll come back to you. I am flattered you wish to hear my thoughts but an intellectual such as your self deserves a considered and well thought out reply.

Bereitstehen, Mark.

 

[Mark B]

The academics you've been brainstorming with can't have been much cop if my simple post has managed to pique your curiosity. It wasnt Jason Arday, was it?

I'll tell you what, let me have my dinner and then i'll come back to you. I am flattered you wish to hear my thoughts but an intellectual such as your self deserves a considered and well thought out reply.

Bereitstehen, Mark.

These have been primarily historians as well as a mix of military practitioners / theorists. Unfortunately, I'm not on Jason's Christmas card list.

I've spent a long time planning and what I've determined is that I loved having non "experts" involved because they view the world differently then experts who mainly think similarly because of their experience and education. The layman doesn't know that something is "impossible" so they haven't shut their mind off to alternate possibilities. So lay it on me, I'll happily share my thoughts on the feasibility of your idea and expand on how it could have been both possible and impossible. .

 

[PalazioVecchio]

That is unnecessarily rude, especially given we have had convivial interactions up to now and I find a lot of what you post interesting

i apologise. My nurse had my scrotum jammed between the wooden slats of a garden chair. It made me temporarily grumpy.

anyhoo..........

Donald Trump. He is better than a Hollywood movie. Pure entertainment.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

The US wants out of the Middle East militarily

easier said than done. Oil is Oil. Its like wanting out of a sh1.tty marriage with a fit bird who goes like the clappers.