The bbc, again.

Spiderman said:
Not biased views then? EM one of the worst offenders for being biased. Of course they are not happy they have been found out and may have to move off their soapboxes
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Neither now work for the BBC, but both very clearly passionately care about it. They left because of the growing political interference in what they believed is for the BBC alone. Something I agree with and think everyone ought to.

Just imagine if this creeping, corrosive political interference is allowed to continue and we end up with a state controlled broadcaster, of the type found in many countries. One in which all you are allowed to hear is what is approved by government.

Then imagine that you don’t approve of that government. How is your voice heard? Will you live in fear of arrest for speaking out? We all need to protect the BBC.

It’s bad enough that Trump is trying to emasculate the media in the USA. We mustn’t allow his fanboy, Farage, to coordinate a campaign here to do the same.

If ever there was a reason to resist Reform, this is it!
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Then you are easily satisfied. Or lacking in enquiry. There is a great deal more involved, but if you are not interested then that’s your choice.
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Equally if you don't see those resignations and apology as an admission of culpability then that's your choice too. This is not an isolated incident but one of a series but again if you choose to ignore that it's up to you.
Defend and deflect as much as you can but in two years the current model of the BBC will be finished and they've brought it on themselves.
 
cryrst said:
I am confused as to why it took so long for it to come out. Trump would have known within minutes of it being shown.
It didn’t need the telegraph years later !
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No he wouldn’t. No one in the USA cares a jot about a BBC documentary about something that happened 4 years previously. Something that was discussed endlessly in the USA and Trump was indicted for. He would only have become aware because it hit the headlines here and then saw another opportunity to plunge the knife and try to make some personal profit. Again.

The BBC, backed by the government, need to politely, but firmly, acknowledge the programme maker made a misjudgment, that the two most senior staff have accepted their ultimate responsibility by resigning, but deny the accusations of harm. Pay nothing and robustly defend if needed.

Someone needs to stand up to this bully.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
No he wouldn’t. No one in the USA cares a jot about a BBC documentary about something that happened 4 years previously. Something that was discussed endlessly in the USA and Trump was indicted for. He would only have become aware because it hit the headlines here and then saw another opportunity to plunge the knife and try to make some personal profit. Again.

The BBC, backed by the government, need to politely, but firmly, acknowledge the programme maker made a misjudgment, that the two most senior staff have accepted their ultimate responsibility by resigning, but deny the accusations of harm. Pay nothing and robustly defend if needed.

Someone needs to stand up to this bully.
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Oh dear. You really need some
TDS be gone pills. 🤦
 
Teddy Eagle said:
Equally if you don't see those resignations and apology as an admission of culpability then that's your choice too. This is not an isolated incident but one of a series but again if you choose to ignore that it's up to you.
Defend and deflect as much as you can but in two years the current model of the BBC will be finished and they've brought it on themselves.
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They fell on their swords because they accept they carry the ultimate responsibility, being the honourable and responsible people they both obviously are.

That isn’t an admission of culpability. It’s accepting that a misjudgment happened which, with the very high standards expected of the BBC, was taken very seriously.

Tim Davie has encouraged the staff to fight. The use of that word, in this context, being no accident.

What the funding model for the BBC will be after the upcoming review is unknown. Things change, but what must not change is the independence and approach of the BBC to fearlessly report the truth. Ensuring that is something that hopefully transcends party politics.

All I would say to you, and the others wishing to see the demise of the BBC is to remember the only wise words ever spoken by Simon Jordan. Be careful what you wish for.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
They fell on their swords because they accept they carry the ultimate responsibility, being the honourable and responsible people they both obviously are.

That isn’t an admission of culpability. It’s accepting that a misjudgment happened which, with the very high standards expected of the BBC, was taken very seriously.

Tim Davie has encouraged the staff to fight. The use of that word, in this context, being no accident.

What the funding model for the BBC will be after the upcoming review is unknown. Things change, but what must not change is the independence and approach of the BBC to fearlessly report the truth. Ensuring that is something that hopefully transcends party politics.

All I would say to you, and the others wishing to see the demise of the BBC is to remember the only wise words ever spoken by Simon Jordan. Be careful what you wish for.
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They fell on their swords just like Greg Dyke did following the Hutton Report and George Entwistle after
Newsnight wrongly implicated Lord McAlpine in a child sex scandal.
I don't want to see the demise of the BBC but I don't want to pay them in order to watch other channels.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Just watched a LBC interview with Jon Sopel and Emily Maitlis on the situation within the BBC.

They aren’t happy. They are convinced that there has been political interference which the government must sort out.

This is extremely revealing and confirms many of my earlier impressions.

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Just confirms their arrogance and why the whole lot of them and probably every channel needs taking down.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
the 'paid for' Science is clear. And the alarmist hysteria is clear also. As are all the previous harbingers of doom that were quietly shelved. Too many to even catalog them on here.

Climate Change me hole. A load of old rubbish. Sadiq Khans excuse to tax us.


Yes the weather is a tiny bit warmer. And no, i really dont give two flying fv.cks. Climate change is the new Transubstantiation......say the wrong opinion and they chop your head off.
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You don't need paying, or to be much of a scientist, to visit the Alps and see glacial retreat, as one example.

You can have "hysteria" but that's on both sides, but to argue against the rising gas output is totally moronic and deliberate.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Neither now work for the BBC, but both very clearly passionately care about it. They left because of the growing political interference in what they believed is for the BBC alone. Something I agree with and think everyone ought to.

Just imagine if this creeping, corrosive political interference is allowed to continue and we end up with a state controlled broadcaster, of the type found in many countries. One in which all you are allowed to hear is what is approved by government.

Then imagine that you don’t approve of that government. How is your voice heard? Will you live in fear of arrest for speaking out? We all need to protect the BBC.

It’s bad enough that Trump is trying to emasculate the media in the USA. We mustn’t allow his fanboy, Farage, to coordinate a campaign here to do the same.

If ever there was a reason to resist Reform, this is it!
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Both very much left leaning journalists, who made no secret of that when working for the “ impartial ” BBC.
So presumably you are ok with GB news being allowed to broadcast? That’s the Channel that many have tried to have shut down because they are right wing.
Ask those arrested for social media posts about fear of speaking out, that fear has already arrived.
So it’s all about Farage! Why did he doctor that speech, I wonder 🤔? I thought it was done by a BBC employee.
You may want to blame Trump, Farage et al but at the end of the day, your beloved BBC brought this on themselves, a massive own goal.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
They fell on their swords because they accept they carry the ultimate responsibility, being the honourable and responsible people they both obviously are.

That isn’t an admission of culpability. It’s accepting that a misjudgment happened which, with the very high standards expected of the BBC, was taken very seriously.

Tim Davie has encouraged the staff to fight. The use of that word, in this context, being no accident.

What the funding model for the BBC will be after the upcoming review is unknown. Things change, but what must not change is the independence and approach of the BBC to fearlessly report the truth. Ensuring that is something that hopefully transcends party politics.

All I would say to you, and the others wishing to see the demise of the BBC is to remember the only wise words ever spoken by Simon Jordan. Be careful what you wish for.
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Encouraging violence, tut tut. Or is this different as it was not Trump?
Do tbe BBC report the truth? Very difficult to believe this after the last year or so
 
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