The bbc, again.

Wisbech Eagle said:
Anyone who watched Trump’s behaviour from the point when it looked possible he was going to lose the election until even today, knows he was trying to overturn a legitimate result. He, and those around him, were lying. He encouraged the dissent. He did nothing to stop it either before or during the time the mob were inside the Capitol building trying to hunt down the representatives. He has subsequently pardoned those involved.

If all of that isn’t sufficient to convince you it’s true then we disagree. It does me.
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Meanwhile, Biden probably didn’t even know he was the President…
 
Teddy Eagle said:
Removing one word from three in a sentence alters the meaning but removing 53 minutes of a speech and splicing together two unrelated comments doesn't. Can't you see the absurdity of this position?
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They aren’t though unrelated. They are part of a pattern that started months before the speech and continues to today.

Trump lies. You need to look beyond his words at any particular moment, which could be anything at all, to put the totality of the event into it’s context.

He was addressing a mob. A mob he had encouraged to believe the election had been “stolen”. A mob intent on trying to stop Congress confirming the result. He didn’t tell them to go home and let democracy prevail. He described the representatives as good people, presumably because he was encouraging the mob to think they would listen to them. He also told them to fight.

If I was a Barrister I would have no problem justifying the way the speech was edited to present the truth behind it.
 
Spindle said:
Thong is Wisbech, nobody believes your mental gymnastics except for you. You're like a child lying to his mum. Mum knows
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He’s like one of those guys you sometimes see in town centres shouting nonsense and waving their arms around.
 
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Wisbech Eagle said:
Anyone who watched Trump’s behaviour from the point when it looked possible he was going to lose the election until even today, knows he was trying to overturn a legitimate result. He, and those around him, were lying. He encouraged the dissent. He did nothing to stop it either before or during the time the mob were inside the Capitol building trying to hunt down the representatives. He has subsequently pardoned those involved.

If all of that isn’t sufficient to convince you it’s true then we disagree. It does me.
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I was talking about the BBC programme you advised us all to watch. Jeez Trump really is in your head isn’t he
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
They aren’t though unrelated. They are part of a pattern that started months before the speech and continues to today.

Trump lies. You need to look beyond his words at any particular moment, which could be anything at all, to put the totality of the event into it’s context.

He was addressing a mob. A mob he had encouraged to believe the election had been “stolen”. A mob intent on trying to stop Congress confirming the result. He didn’t tell them to go home and let democracy prevail. He described the representatives as good people, presumably because he was encouraging the mob to think they would listen to them. He also told them to fight.

If I was a Barrister I would have no problem justifying the way the speech was edited to present the truth behind it.
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You would though have a large problem not getting laughed out of court.
It seems in some peculiar way that in this case the end justifies the means but the law doesn't work like that; rob a burglars' house and see what the law says.
The BBC is supposed to be impartial - not a vigilante organisation shaping public opinion on political matters.
 
georgenorman said:
He’s like one of those guys you sometimes see in town centres shouting nonsense and waving their arms around.
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There are a lot of them in Birmingham.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
You would though have a large problem not getting laughed out of court.
It seems in some peculiar way that in this case the end justifies the means but the law doesn't work like that; rob a burglars' house and see what the law says.
The BBC is supposed to be impartial - not a vigilante organisation shaping public opinion on political matters.
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Exactly, the editing has happened. The deed has been done. Now it's the consequences for that.
 
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