Team vs Al-Ula SC

Is it just me, or is Franca constantly falling over? Often off the ball. It seems to happen more than anyone else.
Doesn't quite happen for him does it.

For some reason I can't explain, I am desperate for him to be a brilliant, stand out, Brazilian wonderboy and a Palace star. But, his touches are often poor and he appears to try to be too clever without the end result. Shame and I reckon Pierre will lose patience with him.

Cardines starred in the first half.
 
Doesn't quite happen for him does it.

For some reason I can't explain, I am desperate for him to be a brilliant, stand out, Brazilian wonderboy and a Palace star. But, his touches are often poor and he appears to try to be too clever without the end result. Shame and I reckon Pierre will lose patience with him.

Cardines starred in the first half.

Franca spurned two decent opportunities so far in the second half - but a bit unlucky to be flagged offside after that

He's involved!
 
As the half went on clearer that Hughes was more frequently the deeper lying central midfielder (6) and Kamada a bit further forward central midfielder (8)

But neither trying to run past the front three to get into the box.

No major change from Glasnerball as far as my amateur judgement goes
Interesting. I have heard that Sage played 343 at Lens, but am not sure if that is true. I also dint know if he played it in the same way as Glasner, with two holding midfielders and two no10s.

Even if he prefers a different formation, I suppose for Sage, coming into a new country, league, and club and finding a group that has had considerable success playing a certain way, it makes sense to play 343, at least at the outset. If it works then great, if not then you can change later and the players will accept it. That's got to be better than changing it upfront, then having to revert to it if the team struggles.

All in all, the idea that a new coach would play in a different way that better suited some of our more misfiring players now seems unlikely.
 
Much improved today.

Possibly a bit of a drop off again when we'd changed up most of the team. First XI is a cut above.

Pleased to get some goals put away, having not done so in three previous games. Also pleased that one came from a well taken corner... that in itself a rarity.

Tomiyasu impressing on his run-out. Couple of good interceptions and plenty of good passes, creating space, and switching up play. Sign him up Pierre.
 
Thats the one although I think we looked a better unit with the first 11 minus 3 or 4. Good to see a couple of the youngsters being brave. Seems sage wants to use the wings like OG but prepared to take a chance rather than tip tap until an attack down the sides is ‘safer’ so to speak.
Just my observations but that’s probably why I’m just a fat plumber 🤣
 
Thats the one although I think we looked a better unit with the first 11 minus 3 or 4. Good to see a couple of the youngsters being brave. Seems sage wants to use the wings like OG but prepared to take a chance rather than tip tap until an attack down the sides is ‘safer’ so to speak.
Just my observations but that’s probably why I’m just a fat plumber 🤣
I knew we had something in common…….but I’m not a plumber 🤣
 
My observations on the young squad players from pre season games,

JRS seems to have regressed from his promising early days, seemingly unwilling/unable to take on players, do his trademark step over or take shots.A move away would probably be for the best

Esse does not appear to be ready for the rigours of the Premier League at the moment.
A good loan move would seem appropriate to see if he can demonstrate his potential

Ozoh looks strong and athletic and competes well. However, he seems to lack the first touch and awareness to play in a midfield role in the Premier League , particularly if we persist with a 2 man central midfield. I think he could have a career at Championship level.

Franca works hard, presses well and is stronger than he perhaps looks.
I’ve been surprised by his lack of technique and erratic finishing though.
If Esse and JRS depart it may be worth persisting with him as a squad option to see if can develop.

Drakes Thomas looks very promising and I would like to see him get more minutes.
He’s comfortable in possession and doesn’t look phased playing in more senior company.

Feel free to tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about and that they are all great.
We all want our youngsters to succeed, but I’m trying to make a dispassionate analysis.
 
My observations on the young squad players from pre season games,

JRS seems to have regressed from his promising early days, seemingly unwilling/unable to take on players, do his trademark step over or take shots.A move away would probably be for the best

Esse does not appear to be ready for the rigours of the Premier League at the moment.
A good loan move would seem appropriate to see if he can demonstrate his potential

Ozoh looks strong and athletic and competes well. However, he seems to lack the first touch and awareness to play in a midfield role in the Premier League , particularly if we persist with a 2 man central midfield. I think he could have a career at Championship level.

Franca works hard, presses well and is stronger than he perhaps looks.
I’ve been surprised by his lack of technique and erratic finishing though.
If Esse and JRS depart it may be worth persisting with him as a squad option to see if can develop.

Drakes Thomas looks very promising and I would like to see him get more minutes.
He’s comfortable in possession and doesn’t look phased playing in more senior company.

Feel free to tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about and that they are all great.
We all want our youngsters to succeed, but I’m trying to make a dispassionate analysis.
Patrick, what are your early opinions of Sage?
 
My observations on the young squad players from pre season games,

JRS seems to have regressed from his promising early days, seemingly unwilling/unable to take on players, do his trademark step over or take shots.A move away would probably be for the best

Esse does not appear to be ready for the rigours of the Premier League at the moment.
A good loan move would seem appropriate to see if he can demonstrate his potential

Ozoh looks strong and athletic and competes well. However, he seems to lack the first touch and awareness to play in a midfield role in the Premier League , particularly if we persist with a 2 man central midfield. I think he could have a career at Championship level.

Franca works hard, presses well and is stronger than he perhaps looks.
I’ve been surprised by his lack of technique and erratic finishing though.
If Esse and JRS depart it may be worth persisting with him as a squad option to see if can develop.

Drakes Thomas looks very promising and I would like to see him get more minutes.
He’s comfortable in possession and doesn’t look phased playing in more senior company.

Feel free to tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about and that they are all great.
We all want our youngsters to succeed, but I’m trying to make a dispassionate analysis.

A good summary in my view

JRS was one of the most exciting prospects of recent years but really should have been given more opportunities or sold by now.

If Franca had just taken a few of his chances in the last 3 games we might be having a different conversation as he he's getting good opportunities to score but no calmness in front of goal (except Swindon)
 
Patrick, what are your early opinions of Sage?
I think at least initially he's going to persist with Glasner's system, which to me makes sense so as not to disrupt a system the players have been playing for a few seasons.
Continuity could be important in trying to avoid the De Boer fiasco when he threw everything up in the air and tried to implement a system that the players were not suitable to implement.
I think how Sage gets on will depend on the resources he has at his disposal.
I think he could struggle if players like Wharton, Mateta and Munoz or a combination thereof depart.
I think the defence is likely to be damaged in any event with the departure of Guehi and Lacroix.
I'm not convinced by our transfer dealings in recent months and feel the quality of the players has been downgraded.
I do feel the early weeks could be challenging ( e.g Everton, Man City) and with the hangover of players returning late from the World Cup and the bedding in of any new players we do bring in.

For me I think it will challenging for Sage, but in fairness it would be for other managers too.
What is unknown is his temperament in terms of how he reacts to setbacks and pressure.
Perhaps the club recognise that it's a transition phase, will be patient, and won't be too trigger happy as long as it looks like we're not in danger of going down.
What do you think?
 
My observations on the young squad players from pre season games,

JRS seems to have regressed from his promising early days, seemingly unwilling/unable to take on players, do his trademark step over or take shots.A move away would probably be for the best

Esse does not appear to be ready for the rigours of the Premier League at the moment.
A good loan move would seem appropriate to see if he can demonstrate his potential

Ozoh looks strong and athletic and competes well. However, he seems to lack the first touch and awareness to play in a midfield role in the Premier League , particularly if we persist with a 2 man central midfield. I think he could have a career at Championship level.

Franca works hard, presses well and is stronger than he perhaps looks.
I’ve been surprised by his lack of technique and erratic finishing though.
If Esse and JRS depart it may be worth persisting with him as a squad option to see if can develop.

Drakes Thomas looks very promising and I would like to see him get more minutes.
He’s comfortable in possession and doesn’t look phased playing in more senior company.

Feel free to tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about and that they are all great.
We all want our youngsters to succeed, but I’m trying to make a dispassionate analysis.
You knew someone was bound to respond to that invitation.

I agree with most of what you say in that:
  • Time to move JRS on - pity we didn't sell him to Southampton for £10m when we had the chance
  • Esse has had one loan in the Championship with Coventry and didn't shine. I think it's time to move him on and take the hit (we won't get what we paid for him).
  • I like Ozoh. He shone at Derby and they and their fans want him back. I think he can be a decent squad option for us especially as Hughes is getting slower all the time and Lerma is IMO a better back 3 bench option than a midfield one.
  • França needs time to settle back into English football and also needs to remember he's in a team. and doesn't have to do it all himself. I think he's worth persevering with.
  • Drakes-Thomas has shown he's the star of the young bunch. He's confident. He tries to beat his man but also tries to get crosses/balls into the box. He can only get better with more game time. If, as has been said, Sage likes to blood young players, I expect to see D-T getting decent minutes this season.
Of the others, which you haven't mentioned:
  • Cardines did well yesterday after dodgy moments against Lens (but then, most of the XI who played had dodgy moments in that game). Difficult to know what will happen with him if Mingueza has been signed primarily as a RWB. However, if we don't get the Lacroix replacement we want, Mingueza might revert to his original central defender role which would allow Cardines to be Munoz's back-up.
  • The 3 young defenders - Walker-Smith, King and Jemide got some useful experience and one or more of them might get some exposure in the Carabao Cup.
  • Benamar looks limited but at 18 might develop further.
  • Adamarola is a mystery - good one moment and bad the next. He'll be 23 in November - time to move him on to one of the lower league clubs.
  • Whitworth was left badly exposed against Bromley. I expect him to have another loan.
 

Holmesdale Online Shop

Back
Top