Talk Sport - again

chris123 said:
Captancy weighing heavy maybe.
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Or playing in a system where he is basically trying to hold the midfield on his own because everyone else is ahead of the ball?

The one game he looked class was Leeds where Timber dropped a bit deeper and Kamada regularly dropped into midfield to close gaps and break up play. Wharton was deeper and could collect from the back line with time to play. Obviously we then ditched that and reverted to keystone cops
 
JHB said:
Or playing in a system where he is basically trying to hold the midfield on his own because everyone else is ahead of the ball?

The one game he looked class was Leeds where Timber dropped a bit deeper and Kamada regularly dropped into midfield to close gaps and break up play. Wharton was deeper and could collect from the back line with time to play. Obviously we then ditched that and reverted to keystone cops
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Or maybe like several other players he’s just not performing at the moment. The lack of quality around him might be showing as well now
 
Willo said:
When a team is conceding goals the natural tendency is to heap blame on the 'Defence' especially if one has not witnessed the games and merely makes judgements based on results.
Quite often structural and tactical issues across the whole team are major contributors to a less than impressive 'Goals Against' column.
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Very true - if you watch games back our mid has been complacent with not just giving away passes in danger zones , they did not run back to support - Wharton ,Kamada - today NEED to step this up - I’d make a ball boy ( non woke) be captain today & let the Team steup up in every department
 
Willo said:
When a team is conceding goals the natural tendency is to heap blame on the 'Defence' especially if one has not witnessed the games and merely makes judgements based on results.
Quite often structural and tactical issues across the whole team are major contributors to a less than impressive 'Goals Against' column.
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Often, not always. Our defence IS appalling right now. There is no other reason. Even Timber in Midfield has been doing an amazing job sitting in front of them trying to offer as much protection as he can.
 
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Willo said:
When a team is conceding goals the natural tendency is to heap blame on the 'Defence' especially if one has not witnessed the games and merely makes judgements based on results.
Quite often structural and tactical issues across the whole team are major contributors to a less than impressive 'Goals Against' column.
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So tell me who switched off for Besiktas first goal then?
 
Davepalace707 said:
So tell me who switched off for Besiktas first goal then?
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For the 1st goal ,yes our 2 defenders did not anticipate a runner & they both got caught watching the goal then each other. Wonder also if,if Hendo was on would he have come out slight earlier ?

Their defender saw the gap , saw the run , killer pass - I’m sure our analysis team are playing it back to the mids & defense

Yet when saying our defense is not good yes very true but even our strikers,forwards mids all turn defenders no matter where the ball is when opposition has it - ie high press , put them under pressure OR let them play we turn to low block option
 
est1905 said:
You have watched Timber play right?
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Timber has brought really good energy to midfield but the one thing he absolutely hasn’t done is protect the back three. He is regularly playing further up and is easily by passed. To be fair to him that looks like a tactical issue. He is following instructions and the whole midfield is way too far in front of the back three.
 
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