Either that or has a friend (or dog) called Sherlock. 😆
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Stabby ! Can Trump's 'nasty person' be London's 'Mare ? Or a Knight-Mayor
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That's just "what happens"
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Two men and a woman arrested after man in his 20s stabbed to death in Valley Retail Park in Croydon
Police, who were called to the scene soon after 1am on Sunday, found three men with stab wounds, one of whom died after being taken to hospital.
Man, 19, stabbed to death on street in Peckham
A murder investigation is under way after the stabbing on Saturday.
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Shame the scumbags won't play along with Khan's cunning plan.
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Two men and a woman arrested after man in his 20s stabbed to death in Valley Retail Park in Croydon
Police, who were called to the scene soon after 1am on Sunday, found three men with stab wounds, one of whom died after being taken to hospital.news.sky.com
Man, 19, stabbed to death on street in Peckham
A murder investigation is under way after the stabbing on Saturday.
Shame the scumbags won't play along with Khan's cunning plan.
Its "just what happens in a big city" 😔
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And it happened all the time in the 80s apparently. Surely we all remember that? Stabbings to death every day in the 80s. Sure. No rewriting of history or false stats there. Thanks Khan.
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London hasn’t fallen
In this line of thinking, London serves as a warning of the sort of hellhole the English-speaking cities of the United States could turn into
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"London, to judge by a network of anonymous social media accounts and blowhard Maga podcasters, is now a dystopian hellhole where there are no-go areas for non-Islamists, the murder rate per capita is higher than Lagos, you need to be Snake Plissken to use the Tube between Mornington Crescent and Chalk Farm, and the police will arrest you for saying “God Save The King”.
Research published by City Hall presents evidence that this isn’t just a random meme: it’s a co-ordinated propaganda effort.
With the help of analytical tools used by the National Cyber Security Centre, researchers have established that posts about London have risen by seven per cent in two years, and “London in decline” narratives have gone up by 150-200 per cent.
These are coming, the researchers discover, not from the concerned citizens of Clapham but from from Sri Lankan-based troll-farms, Vietnamese Facebook networks, and Nigerian bot webs mimicking UK media."
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Exactly, yes. You'd have to be a pure blowhard maga idiot to think it could possibly be correct that, for example, Croydon and Clapham have declined.London hasn’t fallen
In this line of thinking, London serves as a warning of the sort of hellhole the English-speaking cities of the United States could turn into
"London, to judge by a network of anonymous social media accounts and blowhard Maga podcasters, is now a dystopian hellhole where there are no-go areas for non-Islamists, the murder rate per capita is higher than Lagos, you need to be Snake Plissken to use the Tube between Mornington Crescent and Chalk Farm, and the police will arrest you for saying “God Save The King”.
Research published by City Hall presents evidence that this isn’t just a random meme: it’s a co-ordinated propaganda effort.
With the help of analytical tools used by the National Cyber Security Centre, researchers have established that posts about London have risen by seven per cent in two years, and “London in decline” narratives have gone up by 150-200 per cent.
These are coming, the researchers discover, not from the concerned citizens of Clapham but from from Sri Lankan-based troll-farms, Vietnamese Facebook networks, and Nigerian bot webs mimicking UK media."
Just walk around there and make up your own mind. I've never watched any of the videos. The odd one posted on here would be about it.
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I live in Croydon.
Clapham, and south-west generally, is full of young 'finance bros' and girls from Surrey - it's a bloody expensive neighbourhood to be in. If you compare somewhere like Clapham North now with the 90s or early 00s, I'd really struggle to understand how it's declined.
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Did you live there in the past? You think it has less crime now? It's somehow better? It's generally nice is it?
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So one place in Clapham is alright because hipsters are there. Presumably there's a hipster place in Croydon near the Oval or something. They really sum those places up.
Gaslight on this as much as you like. I'm from there.
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Yes, I also grew up and went to school here - I know it has much less crime now than when I grew up.
Crime rates are not a matter of opinion.
Parts of Croydon are nice and parts are much less nice - it suits me because I have easy access into London for work, I get to see my family regularly, and I get to walk to Selhurst Park in 10 mins on matchdays.
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Hipsters are in all parts of Clapham; it's a very desirable postcode these days, as evidenced by property and rental prices - I used Clapham North as an example because it's probably the more extreme transition compared with say Clapham Common. Obviously you'd know that as someone from there.
Gaslighting would be something like insisting your view is accurate, even when it's not supported by statistics - maybe reflect on who is doing that.
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This is all just laughable. Yes, those stabbing gangs were a major issue throughout the 70s and 80s - even the 90s. What are you - twenty or something?
Laughable total rubbish.
If you can't evaluate what you see yourself and you rely on statistics then it's all a big whatever. We all know we can produce whichever statistics we like.
The crime is not statistically down, just clearly manipulated. For weak minded fools to feel better about themselves whilst the reality unfolds, unchecked by statistics.
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You don't seem to live in London yet your evaluation is apparently based on what you see yourself, as you tell someone who does live in London what the 'reality' is. I'd consider that laughable.
If you think whatever tiny sample size of observations you've made is a sound way to measure crime rates or the decline of a city, particularly when what you proport flies in the face of every measurable statistic, that's entirely your prerogative, but I wouldn't be getting on your high horse about others being manipulated or talking rubbish.
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Carry on, clearly humourous. You know nothing about how long I spend there or sample size.
I do not need to guess that you support Khan. He's a liar and the stats are lies. Designed to manipulate people.
I'd certainly rather trust myself because all of this is total bollocks.
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I know you don't live here, and I know any one person isn't going to bear witness to much, regardless how often they visit. As someone who lives and works in London I wouldn't even claim that my personal observations are proof of anything, never mind a visitor.
'The stats are all wrong and I know better' is about as unserious an argument as anyone can make.
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Fair enough. Think what you like. If you won't believe me, that's up to you. I don't have an agenda. You clearly do.
It is miles f***ing more unsafe in every area you've mentioned than it was in the past. However, it is maybe safer than a couple of years in the 2010s for the weak minded to lap up. And the Khan shills to spread.
You would select what stats you like to back any argument. And this is clearly happening here - to you. I don't really care if you won't accept it or won't question yourself. Accept every stat and see where it gets you. It hardly requires me to quote anything.
I'm not second guessing myself or caring. I don't particularly mind those places. I don't have an agenda for or against.
But the slightest suggestion that Croydon has improved is f***ing comedy gold. But I would concede a slight improvement over the last few years. If you're quite young, you might think it's better. If you're slightly older there's absolutely no way you're going to think that.
If you work for Khan then that's your livelihood and I wouldn't blame you for trying. That's what you genuinely sound like in several exchanges.
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Yeah suggesting London isn't as bad as people pretend means I sound like I work for Khan - that's a sensible point. You have no agenda but keep going on about Khan every other post...
Why on earth would I 'believe' your opinions about the city I live in over my own experiences? The fact you think I should is baffling.
I don't accept every stat, but I don't think just inventing your own reality is any better an approach.
Croydon has improved considerably since 20 years ago, as has Clapham.
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You didint see this 20 years ago in clapham....
Teens cause fresh chaos in Clapham days after arrests as mob storms shops
Clapham security guard tells of moment he was forced to lock customers inside M&S store - with further chaos on Tuesday evening
www.standard.co.uk
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You didint see this 20 years ago in clapham....
Teens cause fresh chaos in Clapham days after arrests as mob storms shops
Clapham security guard tells of moment he was forced to lock customers inside M&S store - with further chaos on Tuesday evening
What does that prove? Is the measure of criminality just whether a single incident did or didn't occur?