Sage in or out

Sage in or out

  • In

    Votes: 99 31.6%

  • Out

    Votes: 169 54.0%

  • Sit on the fence

    Votes: 45 14.4%
  • Total voters
    313
est1905 said:
Maybe they should make you manager then 🙄
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I'd give it a go.
I'd be much cheaper and couldn't do much worse.
I wouldn't fall out with players, I'd organise us at set pieces , bolster the midfield to avoid to the powder puff flimsy one we've observed , and have the defenders playing much closer together.

You may think it acceptable that we haven't scored in 5 of our 9 league games and have the worst defence in the league, and of course you are entitled to your opinion as strange as it will seem to many.
 
est1905 said:
I agree that there have been times when the back line dont close the space to midfield quickly enough and vice versa. What I cant and wont accept is a lack of midfield protection is the answer. Its not. Thats a cop out.
For me its defensive inadequacies individually that are the number 1 problem.
Of course there are a number of niggly issues that remain but in my own opinion (and unlike others I stress its my opinion and dont claim to be cleverer than Sage) if we got a couple of better central defenders all other issues will fade away
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I agree that individuals need to step up and cut out errors. Can’t agree that pointing to tactical problems with the shape is a cop out though. The two are connected. Being constantly under pressure at the back will breed mistakes. It all works or doesn’t work together
 
est1905 said:
I think most of us would settle for a defeat but one which we show signs of improvement that gives us optimism for the next few games. I thought the Besiktas game was that first sign but that proved a false dawn
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Like besiktas are somehow world beaters now, they're a mediocre team in a mediocre league, they lost to celtic in the week and rested about 10 players against us. Our squad is probably about 3 times the value of theirs, a tough place to go and not a bad point but hardly a performance worth getting excited about.
 
rikz said:
Like besiktas are somehow world beaters now, they're a mediocre team in a mediocre league, they lost to celtic in the week and rested about 10 players against us. Our squad is probably about 3 times the value of theirs, a tough place to go and not a bad point but hardly a performance worth getting excited about.
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Who said I was excited about it? Dont put words in my mouth to boost your own argument. They didn't rest 10 players they rested 6 and two of those came on during the game. We also rested players.
Describing Besiktas as a mediocre team is just snobbery. How many times have Palace played at that level?
I felt we put in a decent battling performance which could be built upon. You ovbiously feel we should be beating everyone that we play with ease.
 
est1905 said:
Who said I was excited about it? Dont put words in my mouth to boost your own argument. They didn't rest 10 players they rested 6 and two of those came on during the game. We also rested players.
Describing Besiktas as a mediocre team is just snobbery. How many times have Palace played at that level?
I felt we put in a decent battling performance which could be built upon. You ovbiously feel we should be beating everyone that we play with ease.
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Never, because we play in a far higher standard than the Turkish league, the closest we've came to this level was last season, which we walked without getting out of 3rd gear, like most premier league clubs would do, its not snobbery, its just being realistic, like i expected us to beat Middlesborough, which we also looked terrible doing.
 
The writing is on the wall and bar an extraordinary event today he will be gone tomorrow.

At we present we are worth between £800 & 900m but the second we are relegated we will be worth £250m at best.

Therefore the owners will want to protect their investment and I dont really blame them. Sean Dyche is likely to keep us up and cheap. Dont want him but thats my guess as to what will happen this week.
 
JessieJ said:
Haha, how thoughts can be sent through the ether. My son and I were looking at our crossing stats. It is appalling. JSL ma not be the strongest physically but he can get on the endof crosses. We simply don't do that style. Most of Eze's super first time strikes were from low flat crosses played to the back of the penalty area so the situation is not new. Now a) we don't seem to have found anybody to replace that threat but neither we cross to the strength of our CF. Tactics again. Or ability?
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i was sure that was why we signed McNeil. Yet he never plays left midfield.
 
The Sage experiment has failed.
He's the wrong manager at the wrong time for the club.
It's obviously not his sole fault, but the inquest can wait.
What's important is how the club move forward with a real focus on the Coventry and Hull games.
It may seem crazy to talk like this so early in the season, but we don't want to be stuck on 7 points much longer if we want to have a hope of surviving.
We're likely to need 30 plus more points from the rest of the season.
 
Didnt we get of deboar around this time of year? Although it all looks dire at mo, think with a decent manager we will get out of this , still plenty to play for. Need to get out of Europe, concentrate on the prem and if the gods are in our side , go for the league cup !
 
If it is Dyche who comes it there may be a rude awakening for a few players.
He is first and foremost a pragmatist playing functional football to achieve results.
He likes defenders to defend, hard running midfielders and wide players who cross the ball from wide.
There may be a few in the squad who don't suit the template.
 
On the way home. The result was more or less what I expected, but the performance was not. I thought we played really well, and with a bit of luck and better finishing we could have come close. The players certainly put in a shift.
Making a decision on the basis of one game is not a good idea of course, but with limited viable alternatives I've changed my mind and would like him to stay.
 
WJK1960 said:
On the way home. The result was more or less what I expected, but the performance was not. I thought we played really well, and with a bit of luck and better finishing we could have come close. The players certainly put in a shift.
Making a decision on the basis of one game is not a good idea of course, but with limited viable alternatives I've changed my mind and would like him to stay.
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You're not by any chance a Hull, Ipswich or Coventry fan in wanting Sage to stay?
 
WJK1960 said:
Of course not. Did you not see a much better performance today ?
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I did, but one game doesn't change the trajectory of the season under Sage, and ultimately a 3-0 defeat can't be a cause for optimism.
Some periods of fluent football are all well and good, but not much use if you aren't organised defensively.
It feels we have to score 3 in a game to have a chance of getting a result.
 
Glasner first full season after 10 games = 7 points.
Roy first season after 10 games (post RDB) = 9 points.
Sage after 10 games = 7 points.
Played better today. Matched Liverpool in everything other than goals. Thats all I expect.
Expectations too high. We are at risk of falling into the Charlton trap.
After Hull and Coventry, if performances return to being poor then pull the trigger.
 
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