Restore Britain.

[Hrolf The Ganger]

How so? Their majority is big enough to survive a confidence vote. In what other circumstances would there be an election before 2029? I can't see any.

I think the only possibility is a complete implosion within the party prompted by the resignation of Starmer. There is no real replacement and a split could spark a rebellion in a no confidence vote.

It sounds unlikely but some might feel that going early is the only way to avoid a complete annihilation.

 

[Stirlingsays]

I think the only possibility is a complete implosion within the party prompted by the resignation of Starmer. There is no real replacement and a split could spark a rebellion in a no confidence vote.

It sounds unlikely but some might feel that going early is the only way to avoid a complete annihilation.

Hey, let's hope you're right but I think Labour only care about holding power as long as possible. Starmer has already intimated that this is a pure ideological fight for him. He's less interested in other factors, only in keeping people like us away from power....and when I say Starmer I'm effectively saying the whole Labour movement. They are all about gay race communism as the future for Britain.....It's been that way since the 70s, we just never really wanted to admit it until it became front and centre.

Just as the 'Europe' keep the Ukraine war going in the hope that Russia could collapse, Labour will do the same thing with Reform/Restore and anyone else who looks like winning.

A week is a long time in politics but three years is a lot longer.

 

[Common Sense Club]

How so? Their majority is big enough to survive a confidence vote. In what other circumstances would there be an election before 2029? I can't see any.

No, I can’t either. Delaying the 2029 election, maybe!!

 

[Stirlingsays]

I think we have seen the likely playbook with how the democrats treated Trump and how the Germany state treat the AfD in Germany.

They will use every dirty trick under the sun, like their foot soldiers HNH, who have broken the law but continually get a pass from our security services.

They won't just let democracy play out its course, they will interfere and manipulate, criminise......every dirty means at their disposal.

But in doing so they lose legitimacy.

 

[eaglesdare]

I think we have seen the likely playbook with how the democrats treated Trump and how the Germany state treat the AfD in Germany.

They will use every dirty trick under the sun, like their foot soldiers HNH, who have broken the law but continually get a pass from our security services.

They won't just let democracy play out its course, they will interfere and manipulate, criminise......every dirty means at their disposal.

But in doing so they lose legitimacy.

Don't forget Le Penn in france.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Don't forget Le Penn in france.

Macron is just as low principled and a degenerate as Starmer.

Bisexuals pretending that they are straight, they have been lying since the start.....Well, probably not even bisexual in Macron's case.

 

[beak]

I think that calling a political party Restore is an own goal for the country blatantly suggesting that we have badly slipped from grace, we are (behind Germany) the second highest in economic terms (lots of metrics to go through) in geographical Europe ( yes I know we are not in the E.U.)There is a lot to cheer in Britain people are risking their lives and their children's lives to get here but the indigenous population cannot see or wish to ignore the opportunities and endlessly moan as a national sport.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Hey, let's hope you're right but I think Labour only care about holding power as long as possible. Starmer has already intimated that this is a pure ideological fight for him. He's less interested in other factors, only in keeping people like us away from power....and when I say Starmer I'm effectively saying the whole Labour movement. They are all about race communism as the future for Britain.....It's been that way since the 70s, we just never really wanted to admit it until it became front and centre.

Just as the 'Europe' keep the Ukraine war going in the hope that Russia could collapse, Labour will do the same thing with Reform/Restore and anyone else who looks like winning.

A week is a long time in politics but three years is a lot longer.

This being a new term to me, and sounding particularly unpleasant, I asked Google what it meant. This being the answer:-

"Race communism" and the slogan "race mixing is communism" were primarily used by segregationists and right-wingers in the 1950s U.S. to frame racial integration as a subversive, foreign ideology.”

Describing the future for Britain in this way really is nasty and a clear indication of true beliefs.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

I think we have seen the likely playbook with how the democrats treated Trump and how the Germany state treat the AfD in Germany.

They will use every dirty trick under the sun, like their foot soldiers HNH, who have broken the law but continually get a pass from our security services.

They won't just let democracy play out its course, they will interfere and manipulate, criminise......every dirty means at their disposal.

But in doing so they lose legitimacy.

You are obsessed with this lie! The ONLY thing that treated Trump was the law. He wasn’t President, he had access to a defence, he was found guilty on one charge and managed to delay other cases until he was President again, when they had to be withdrawn. The, non political, Prosecutor subsequently claiming his case was watertight on two of them.

It’s as big a lie as the “election fraud” one. You are as deluded as Trump.

You claim to want democracy. As of May 2025, Germany's domestic intelligence agency (Verfassungsschutz) has officially classified the AfD as a right-wing extremist organisation and a threat to democracy. Of course though you think you know better than the professionals.

 

[Stirlingsays]

This being a new term to me, and sounding particularly unpleasant, I asked Google what it meant. This being the answer:-

"Race communism" and the slogan "race mixing is communism" were primarily used by segregationists and right-wingers in the 1950s U.S. to frame racial integration as a subversive, foreign ideology.”

Describing the future for Britain in this way really is nasty and a clear indication of true beliefs.

I'm not describing race-mixing, my views on that are it's ultimately down to the individual.

I certainly think that the races should be continuing their own racial groups, but I'm not for telling people who they should and shouldn't fall in love with.

I've said it many times, there are good people in every racial group, but white people are under demographic attack.

I'm definitely aware of people like you wanting the white race to be mixed out and I regard your excuses for the denial of race as dishonest.....As does most of the world.

No, what I meant was 'gay race communism'.

The fact that I wrote 'race communism' was a typo.

 

[Stirlingsays]

You are obsessed with this lie! The ONLY thing that treated Trump was the law. He wasn’t President, he had access to a defence, he was found guilty on one charge and managed to delay other cases until he was President again, when they had to be withdrawn. The, non political, Prosecutor subsequently claiming his case was watertight on two of them.

You are the liar and have always been in my view. That's recognised by many on this forum.

The charges against Trump were mostly ridiculous and completely political in nature and timing (for example, inflating real estate prices) and the US public clearly recognised them as such.
People like you lost.....and you richly deserved to lose on this point.
All people like you did was strengthen Trump and ensured Trump would become the next president.
You were told that by me at the time....but meteorically you own no mirrors.

It’s as big a lie as the “election fraud” one. You are as deluded as Trump.

There is always fraud in elections.
Postal voting allied with vote harvesting gave the 2020 election more scope than most.
However, my own views on that election hold the media more accountable for election interference due to the supression of the Hunter Biden laptop and the lies told and published from 50 ex intel that Trump was working for Russia or some other crap.

Stuff that both publicly apologised for if I remember correctly.

As for other claims, I never really took much interest.

You claim to want democracy. As of May 2025, Germany's domestic intelligence agency (Verfassungsschutz) has officially classified the AfD as a right-wing extremist organisation and a threat to democracy. Of course though you think you know better than the professionals.

My views on democracy have shifted a little.....not that I don't regard it as desirable.....but that I don't believe that we have anything that deserves that title.

We have a disfigured version of it that's run for certain people over others.

Your example itself is an example of the abuse of democracy by social liberals......something we have seen all over Europe. Social liberals and the left use dirty tactics to manipulate the system as much as possible to deny anything they view as too right wing in their countries (which in fundamentally undemocratic)......it will rebound on them unless they go full authoritarian and mask off.....which we will see if they do.

If they do go full authoritarian, then what happens is in the lap of the gods....so to speak.

Until people like Macron/Labour/Metz....and whoever is in Spain are booted out.....which according to opinion polls is what the majority want in most of Europe.....then nothing changes.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Hey, let's hope you're right but I think Labour only care about holding power as long as possible. Starmer has already intimated that this is a pure ideological fight for him. He's less interested in other factors, only in keeping people like us away from power....and when I say Starmer I'm effectively saying the whole Labour movement. They are all about race communism as the future for Britain.....It's been that way since the 70s, we just never really wanted to admit it until it became front and centre.

Just as the 'Europe' keep the Ukraine war going in the hope that Russia could collapse, Labour will do the same thing with Reform/Restore and anyone else who looks like winning.

A week is a long time in politics but three years is a lot longer.

I think you are right about the ideological element, but Labour MPs will be worried about their jobs. They could see the current decline in Labour popularity only getting worse if they lose Starmer and continue their incompetence under an unelected leader.
I'm sure the cabinet will be keen to hold on to power till the last, but they are few and the Parliamentary party are many.

It's an optimistic spin for sure but not impossible.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

I'm not describing race-mixing, my views on that are it's ultimately down to the individual.

I certainly think that the races should be continuing their own racial groups, but I'm not for telling people who they should and shouldn't fall in love with.

I've said it many times, there are good people in every racial group, but white people are under demographic attack.

I'm definitely aware of people like you wanting the white race to be mixed out and I regard your excuses for the denial of race as dishonest.....As does most of the world.

No, what I meant was 'gay race communism'.

The fact that I wrote 'race communism' was a typo.


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A “typo” that remains uncorrected! And still unpleasant if, and when, it is!

I don’t want “the white race to be mixed out”. Such a concept being totally impossible. You cannot mix anything that doesn’t exist. No matter how often you refer to it, or how convinced you are it does, there is not, and cannot be, either a “white” or a “black” race. There are many ethnic and social groups with predominantly pale or dark faces. There are not single biological white or black races.

 

[beak]

A “typo” that remains uncorrected! And still unpleasant if, and when, it is!

I don’t want “the white race to be mixed out”. Such a concept being totally impossible. You cannot mix anything that doesn’t exist. No matter how often you refer to it, or how convinced you are it does, there is not, and cannot be, either a “white” or a “black” race. There are many ethnic and social groups with predominantly pale or dark faces. There are not single biological white or black races.

I pressed the ignore button on him early on ,nothing "stirling" about him more Iron Pyrites.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

You are the liar and have always been in my view. That's recognised by many on this forum.

What is thought by “many” on this forum of my views is a clear vindication of them.

The charges against Trump were mostly ridiculous and completely political in nature and timing (for example, inflating real estate prices) and the US public clearly recognised them as such.
People like you lost.....and you richly deserved to lose on this point.
All people like you did was strengthen Trump and ensured Trump would become the next president.
You were told that by me at the time....but meteorically you own no mirrors.

They weren’t or they could not have passed the grand jury or been judged guilty. Inflating prices to secure advantageous loans is illegal. Not political. That Trump played the victim and too many (you included) were fooled by him, or that it hurt the Democrats, is true. I am sure that if there had been political interference the Democrats would have tried to stop them. They would have been aware of the impact, but respect the law.

There is always fraud in elections.
Postal voting allied with vote harvesting gave the 2020 election more scope than most.
However, my own views on that election hold the media more accountable for election interference due to the supression of the Hunter Biden laptop and the lies told and published from 50 ex intel that Trump was working for Russia or some other crap.

The involvement of, and dependence on, Russia by Trump is becoming clearer and clearer. Only fools deny it. Of course there is fraud, but not at a level that impacts the result. I don’t care, nor does anyone with more than half a brain, or correctly the responsible media, about the activities of the drug and tragedy impacted son of a President.

Stuff that both publicly apologised for if I remember correctly.

As for other claims, I never really took much interest.

Your ignorance is unsurprising but destroys your opinions.

My views on democracy have shifted a little.....not that I don't regard it as desirable.....but that I don't believe that we have anything that deserves that title.

We do. It remains entirely in our hands. The people will be heard. Just look at what is currently happening in the USA.

We have a disfigured version of it that's run for certain people over others.

Your example itself is an example of the abuse of democracy by social liberals......something we have seen all over Europe. Social liberals and the left use dirty tactics to manipulate the system as much as possible to denial the right wing in their countries......it will rebound on them unless they go full authoritarian and mask off.....which we will see.

Security forces don’t work for social liberals. They protect the people.

Until people like Macron/Labour/Metz....and whoever is in Spain are booted out.....which according to opinion polls is what the majority want in most of Europe.....then nothing changes.

We will see. Then we will see again. So long as democracy prevails.

 

[Stirlingsays]

A “typo” that remains uncorrected! And still unpleasant if, and when, it is!

I corrected it in my reply to you. But, fair enough I'll correct the typo.

I don’t want “the white race to be mixed out”. Such a concept being totally impossible. You cannot mix anything that doesn’t exist. No matter how often you refer to it, or how convinced you are it does, there is not, and cannot be, either a “white” or a “black” race. There are many ethnic and social groups with predominantly pale or dark faces. There are not single biological white or black races.

Once again, your opinion is a vast minority around the world and even in the woke institutions you refer to they were saying the opposite before they were taken over by the left.

And yes, I believe your opinion is formed from your anti white animus.
I don't believe you would reside in a non white country and express these opinions about them....I just don't.

 

[Stirlingsays]

I think you are right about the ideological element, but Labour MPs will be worried about their jobs. They could see the current decline in Labour popularity only getting worse if they lose Starmer and continue their incompetence under an unelected leader.
I'm sure the cabinet will be keen to hold on to power till the last, but they are few and the Parliamentary party are many.

It's an optimistic spin for sure but not impossible.

Let's hope that happens.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

I corrected it in my reply to you. But, fair enough I'll correct the typo.



Once again, your opinion is a vast minority around the world and even in the woke institutions you refer to they were saying the opposite before they were taken over by the left.

And yes, I believe your opinion is formed from your anti white animus.
I don't believe you would reside in a non white country and express these opinions about them....I just don't.

I fully realise that currently this terminology is widely used, even by government. That though doesn’t make it right. I believe my argument is actually unanswerable and that the use of this language is contributing significantly to the problems without doing anything positive at all.

My hope, and expectation, is that this will become more widely recognised in time and gradually replaced with the truth.

The idea that I have “anti white animus” is so ridiculously pathetic it made me laugh! How on earth do you think I can be prejudiced against something that doesn’t exist? I treat people as individuals. I treat racists as racists, idiots as idiots. One guy I used to know is both a racist and an idiot. He also has a black skin.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I fully realise that currently this terminology is widely used, even by government. That though doesn’t make it right. I believe my argument is actually unanswerable and that the use of this language is contributing significantly to the problems without doing anything positive at all.

My hope, and expectation, is that this will become more widely recognised in time and gradually replaced with the truth.

The idea that I have “anti white animus” is so ridiculously pathetic it made me laugh! How on earth do you think I can be prejudiced against something that doesn’t exist? I treat people as individuals. I treat racists as racists, idiots as idiots. One guy I used to know is both a racist and an idiot. He also has a black skin.

Have a walk around East London and laugh about how ridiculously pathetic it is.

 

[Xong Kudu]

Wisbech

You are a strange man with terrible judgment. I remember you before the last US election arguing like crazy that Biden was not suffering from early dementia but was just old and a little bit forgetful at times like the rest of elderly gentleman. You also thought Kamala Harris was the best thing since sliced bread. And no..that doesn’t mean I think Trump is good.

Common sense and integrity of fair thought just doesn’t apply to you does it? It’s all about supporting your tribe on the Left whether they’re right or wrong, sane or insane.. I actually wonder if you can see your own ridiculousness or more likely you just don’t care because you thrive on the attention of being a biased agitator from your white safe enclave in Cornwall. Ironic!