Reiss Nelson

I hope this isn't true don't rate him but at 15m its a cheap so I can see it being a SP thing.
 
Very underwhelming IF true.

I don’t get why an “also ran” from Arsenal can command that sort of fee?

He’s not better than what we already have at the moment.

I know Ollie does well at improving players and getting the maximum out of them - but I think he’d be pulling a rabbit from a hat to make Nelson a £15 million player.
 
Very talented player who I've always felt is waiting for somewhere to establish himself.

Concern is he's 25 and has made a total of 30 career starts at club level, so he's incredibly inexperienced for his age. By comparison, Lacroix is also 25 and has 167 career starts.

Having said that, his underlying numbers last season were very good, and although it's a relatively small sample size, his output suggests he's one of the most effective dribblers in the league, which is very Palace!

At £15m I quite like the signing - reasonable expenditure, adds some much needed attacking depth and creativity, very promising underlying numbers and despite his age, this is still an inexperienced player with lots of room to develop.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
Very talented player who I've always felt is waiting for somewhere to establish himself.

Concern is he's 25 and has made a total of 30 career starts at club level, so he's incredibly inexperienced for his age. By comparison, Lacroix is also 25 and has 167 career starts.

Having said that, his underlying numbers last season were very good, and although it's a relatively small sample size, his output suggests he's one of the most effective dribblers in the league, which is very Palace!

At £15m I quite like the signing - reasonable expenditure, adds some much needed attacking depth and creativity, very promising underlying numbers and despite his age, this is still an inexperienced player with lots of room to develop.
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The main thing should never be overlooked and that's his injury record, which probably accounts for him being available at £15m despite not yet reaching prime age.

On the few occasions I've seen him play, he's looked reasonably decent. He would be a big gamble but might be one worth taking.

However, I think he's just one of several attacking options we're looking at to come in after Pino. Who is the no 1 choice after Pino is anyone's guess. It might just be Elliot if we can get him at a decent price as he would give OG options given his versatility.
 
taylors lovechild said:
It could be similar to how Hudson-Odoi thrived after leaving Chelsea, but surely with his recent injury record a loan with an option to buy makes more sense?
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I thought it pretty likely that Hudson-Odoi was going to work out. I believe we were linked - it would have been handy. I'm nowhere near as sure about Nelson. Hudson-Odoi had achieved far more as far as I'm aware. Nelson's like Nketiah - has always seemed a bit part that hasn't quite kicked on as hoped.
If I were to suggest how any fee for Nelson should work - it should be maybe a 5 mil up front fee. But then further installments on 20 and 40 matches etc. That way, if he's not up to it, he won't make the team and we won't have overpaid too much.
I think Esse is probably just as good as Nelson too. However, Nelson does have some pace and, despite some injuries, is pretty strong - so could play a decent in part in lesser matches. Frankly, however so could Esse and Rak-Sakyi if we get low opposition in Europe.
Consider that Rangers got to the Europa League final recently enough. Would Rak-Sakyi and Esse make their team? I suspect they'd be well able for that.
 
Crystal_Clear said:
Have we learned nothing from the Nketiah transfer last year ?

These guys from Arsenal simply not worth it. The only one that could have been worth a gamble was Smith-Rowe, but then again he is now only a £40m sub at Fulham.

Again, seems like a cheap option.

We should leave well alone.
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That's contradictory in itself.

Nketiah wasn't the cheap option.

And actually I think it represents decent business - its about building a squad and he is a squad player.
 
If we sign him for £15m on, say, a 4 year contract at his current wages of £100,000 a week, we’d be lumbering ourselves with a cost of a total of £35,800,000, for a player whose injury record is awful and who only got 1 goal and 1 assist last season. Persistent hamstring injuries also generally (with some but not all that many exceptions) mean a player’s career only goes in one direction. A loan for the season if Arsenal covered part of his wages wouldn’t be insanity, but buying him permanently would be an enormous risk.
 
Peter de Lisle said:
If we sign him for £15m on, say, a 4 year contract at his current wages of £100,000 a week, we’d be lumbering ourselves with a cost of a total of £35,800,000, for a player whose injury record is awful and who only got 1 goal and 1 assist last season. Persistent hamstring injuries also generally (with some but not all that many exceptions) mean a player’s career only goes in one direction. A loan for the season if Arsenal covered part of his wages wouldn’t be insanity, but buying him permanently would be an enormous risk.
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I don’t think we’d offer him anything near his current salary - more likely 60/70k a week.
 
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