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DanH said:
No one is arsed about this one man ego trip of a by-election.

Get back to parliament and face your scrutiny, Nige, ya massive fanny.
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How surprised is anyone that you consider what elites think as more important than working class people.

That's the modern progressives.
 
HKOwen said:
The voters of Clacton do, or is their opinion not valid in the progressive world because you disagree with their choice?
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I don’t live too far from Clacton, kids love it there. It’s a shame the residents are being used as pawns in a pointless petty political charade.

Do you think many of them wanted this by-election?
 
DanH said:
I don’t live too far from Clacton, kids love it there. It’s a shame the residents are being used as pawns in a pointless petty political charade.

Do you think many of them wanted this by-election?
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So you are saying they are too thick not to be used as pawns, this is typical of the patronising left of anyone who disagrees. Very post Corbyn loss rhetoric from the likes of Long-Bailey.

I think they are happy to show their support for their favoured candidate, but that's an opinion.

This is why the red wall went.
 
HKOwen said:
So you are saying they are too thick not to be used as pawns, this is typical of the patronising left of anyone who disagrees. Very post Corbyn loss rhetoric from the likes of Long-Bailey.

I think they are happy to show their support for their favoured candidate, but that's an opinion.

This is why the red wall went.
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Why are you making up things that I haven’t said and then judging me on them?

Extremely poor form, even for you.
 
DanH said:
I don’t live too far from Clacton, kids love it there. It’s a shame the residents are being used as pawns in a pointless petty political charade.

Do you think many of them wanted this by-election?
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I hope Farage's security team are aware of that!
 
Stirlingsays said:
The people of Clacton will show with one finger what they think of that.

They can't get rid of Farage democratically.
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Really? No other serious party is standing so the result is pretty meaningless.

If the turnout is less than 50%, which i suspect it will be, it shows how apathetic people are to politics in general, Farage included.
 
Stirlingsays said:
The people of Clacton will show with one finger what they think of that.

They can't get rid of Farage democratically.
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The whole saga has seen Farage's popularity and reputation take a significant hit by almost any measure - his favourability is at it's lowest in a decade, and all that financial scrutiny will soon return when the investigation resumes.

That the people of Clacton will vote for him over a bin doesn't prove anything - according to polling, it hasn't particularly moved the dial amongst Reform votes, but at national level this episode has made a significant dent in Farage's standing, as it should.
 
HKOwen said:
The voters of Clacton do, or is their opinion not valid in the progressive world because you disagree with their choice?
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If its just a popularity contest then Farage will win. Binface does not have the same number of followers (at least on planet Earth). I have no idea whether Farage has done anything wrong (£5m untaxed gift or undeclared party donation etc) and doubt any of the voters know the truth either, we can all make a guess one way of the other. Popular does not always mean good. Most pop music is s***. Trump is popular in the US even though he is a serial rapist, liar and fraudster. I don't get all this us versus the establishment. Who are the establishment? From what we read the establishment appears to be some sort of communist monster trying to make the country gay and islamic. Most government workers are jobbing nobodies hoping for a nice pension and a Saga cruise at the end of their 30 years service. What does it matter anyway? We are all going to die in a few years in a ball of fire as the world temperatures reach critical mass.
 
DanH said:
They didn’t ask for this by-election. Nige called it to try and dodge the investigation.

Is that simple enough language for you?
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If they feel they have been mistreated then then won't bother to vote, the language is simple, simple wriggling on a hook.

I didn't realise " used as pawns " was complimentary.
 
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