Reform

[Wisbech Eagle]

He does not practice what he preaches. Pretty much almost universal with politicians on the left. They and Wisbech Eagle have made conscious decisions to move to majority white neighbourhoods, they would've been completely aware of this fact. And don't insult everyone's intelligence and say you didn't check the crime statistics of the neighbourhood you are moving into before you purchased a property there, because EVERYONE does that.

You know nothing about me.

I gave whether this was a "white" neighbourhood not a moment's thought. It's not something I either care or think about. I only care if somewhere is a quiet, respectable and pleasant area to live. Cornwall long being a favourite of mine. I don't like cities. Not because of who lives in them, but because I don't like noise, crowds or traffic. I did not check the crime ststistics either despite your nonsensical claim that everyone does. That this is a safe and healthy place to live was instinctively obvious.

 

[silvertop]

They are far-left propagandists and agitators.

Ha! Can you imagine the Python-esque agenda when they meet?

They espouse a great deal of what I hate, but surely you have little issue with their stance on Islamic extremism and anti semitism?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

You don't fool me.

Your type always seek to pay as little as possible.

As you so often talk about people being economically involved that's cool. How about you take yourself off to that Mosque you spoke about previously on here and tell the Muslim men there that their wives need to be out to work. As compared to most demographics they have a high level of benefit dependents.

Report back on how well your message was received.

I am not trying to fool you! I am telling the truth. Something you have had a long history of struggling with.

Telling any man, from any traditional culture, that his wife needs to work is not something that any individual would be wise to do. Change comes from us taking actions. Not by me.

Change will arrive, over time and through generations, via education and experience. As a society we must ensure we establish the environment in which it happens naturally and barely perceptably. The lead being taken, in most cases, by women.

 

[georgenorman]

Ha! Can you imagine the Python-esque agenda when they meet?

They espouse a great deal of what I hate, but surely you have little issue with their stance on Islamic extremism and anti semitism?

On their website they state: " At HOPE not hate, our mission is to work tirelessly to expose and oppose far-right extremism." No mention of Islamic extremism and anti-semitism - or are we supposed to believe that they regard Islamic extremism as far right?

 

[Spindle]

what ? are you talking about the 'future tense' ? that sounds a bit optimistic to me.

White working‑class boys still at the bottom of the class, says race report chief - The Centre for Social Justice

White working‑class boys are stuck at the bottom of the class, a new analysis warns, published to mark the fifth anniversary of the Sewell Commission on Race

www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk

Institutional racism and sexism

 

[Spindle]

You know nothing about me.

I gave whether this was a "white" neighbourhood not a moment's thought. It's not something I either care or think about. I only care if somewhere is a quiet, respectable and pleasant area to live. Cornwall long being a favourite of mine. I don't like cities. Not because of who lives in them, but because I don't like noise, crowds or traffic. I did not check the crime ststistics either despite your nonsensical claim that everyone does. That this is a safe and healthy place to live was instinctively obvious.

Full of s***, a profiteer and a traitor

 

[silvertop]

On their website they state: " At HOPE not hate, our mission is to work tirelessly to expose and oppose far-right extremism." No mention of Islamic extremism and anti-semitism - or are we supposed to believe that they regard Islamic extremism as far right?

Well it kinda is.

Islamic extremism has no connection with genuine far left nutters.

A wish to create a pan national caliphate has as much crossover with socialism through revolution as the Truro Knitting Circle

 

[georgenorman]

Well it kinda is.

Islamic extremism has no connection with genuine far left nutters.

A wish to create a pan national caliphate has as much crossover with socialism through revolution as the Truro Knitting Circle

They and the Greens cosy up and the Left in general are apologists for Islamic extremists and openly support the likes of Hamas.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Well it kinda is.

Islamic extremism has no connection with genuine far left nutters.

A wish to create a pan national caliphate has as much crossover with socialism through revolution as the Truro Knitting Circle

Not very bright are you.

This is about political opportunism. Power is all that matters to these various factions. They set aside morals and ideals when it suits them.

 

[silvertop]

They and the Greens cosy up and the Left in general are apologists for Islamic extremists and openly support the likes of Hamas.

They presumably unite on attacking Israel for blatant genocide, ethnic cleansing and misc. human rights abuses, but that is hardly cozying up to those who committed the Oct 7 atrocities.

That said, if you have documented support for Oct 7 from those organizations then I will be happy to accept your point.

 

[georgenorman]

They presumably unite on attacking Israel for blatant genocide, ethnic cleansing and misc. human rights abuses, but that is hardly cozying up to those who committed the Oct 7 atrocities.

That said, if you have documented support for Oct 7 from those organizations then I will be happy to accept your point.

There is no 'genocide, ethnic cleansing and misc. human rights abuses', you are just another apologist for Islamic Terrorism like Hope not Hate and the Greens..

 

[Attilio1905]

You know nothing about me.

I gave whether this was a "white" neighbourhood not a moment's thought. It's not something I either care or think about.

I'm a new poster and know even less about you then the other chap, but from reading previous posts it appears you live in a traditional and quiet rural part of the country, populated mostly by indigenous British.

If say for example, 50% of your area suddenly (say over 5 years) became populated by immigrants from Africa, South Asia or the Middle East, do you accept that the area would change?
And if so, do you think it would be for the better, or worse?

Genuine question, asked in good faith.

 

[Attilio1905]

I view it as a negotiating position.

There needs to be give and take on both sides.

If the right don't come together then we risk these fannies continuing to turn the rest of the country into what I experienced as a 17 year old in Stockwell, Brixton.

Following on from previous posts about personalities, ego and leadership - I agree 100% that the right needs to come together if we are to capitalise on the grass roots support for our message.

Whether Lowe and Farage can compromise and come together for the common good will show their mettle as leaders. History could show them as men who saved the country, or men who through ego and stubbornness threw it all away. The next few days and weeks could be crucial .

 

[Spindle]

Well it kinda is.

Islamic extremism has no connection with genuine far left nutters.

A wish to create a pan national caliphate has as much crossover with socialism through revolution as the Truro Knitting Circle

However in this case it's bullshit. Hope not hate are now a left wing antagonist group, they are all about extreme left wing ideologies under the lie that they're a lovely lot

 

[Spindle]

I'm a new poster and know even less about you then the other chap, but from reading previous posts it appears you live in a traditional and quiet rural part of the country, populated mostly by indigenous British.

If say for example, 50% of your area suddenly (say over 5 years) became populated by immigrants from Africa, South Asia or the Middle East, do you accept that the area would change?
And if so, do you think it would be for the better, or worse?

Genuine question, asked in good faith.

Don't waste your time with the good faith bit. This bloke will say anything regardless of principle, and faith, just to squirm.

He's like a runny s*** trying to get through lower intestines at speed. You watch.

 

[georgenorman]

If say for example, 50% of your area suddenly (say over 5 years) became populated by immigrants from Africa, South Asia or the Middle East, do you accept that the area would change?
And if so, do you think it would be for the better, or worse?

Genuine question, asked in good faith.

Good luck with that!

 

[silvertop]

There is no 'genocide, ethnic cleansing and misc. human rights abuses', you are just another apologist for Islamic Terrorism like Hope not Hate and the Greens..

I would genuinely love to live in the fantasy world you occupy.

Nap time?

 

[georgenorman]

I would genuinely love to live in the fantasy world you occupy.

Nap time?

"To see what is in front of one's nose requires constant struggle." [Orwell]

 

[Jordan555x]

You know nothing about me.

I gave whether this was a "white" neighbourhood not a moment's thought. It's not something I either care or think about. I only care if somewhere is a quiet, respectable and pleasant area to live. Cornwall long being a favourite of mine. I don't like cities. Not because of who lives in them, but because I don't like noise, crowds or traffic. I did not check the crime ststistics either despite your nonsensical claim that everyone does. That this is a safe and healthy place to live was instinctively obvious.

I'll be praying for a young fighting age male asylum seeker hotel to open up on your doorstep as you would obviously be such a big fan of that. Fingers crossed for you, buddy.

 

[Spiderman]

That was 16 years ago using strictly mathematical assumptions to reach his conclusions. Conclusions that are not shared by others who acknowledge the variables and that changes are inevitable, which will alter perceptions. To spread this as though it is factual is a disservice to future generations. You are seeking to impose your standards and expectations on them. I want them to determine their own.

I am not deciding anything. You are though! Or trying to.

To use “white” South Africans” as an example is beyond pathetic. Every single one of them has a heritage which leads, in a relatively small number of steps, to an immigrant. If you want their rights protected, why not those of the immigrants to the UK? The only answer that seems possible is their skin colour!

You have no right to determine what “we” want! We elect politicians to determine what we need. Rightly taking no heed of what certain groups want. I don’t share your “want”!

I have no idea when the last time you were here in Cornwall but using the empirical evidence of my own eyes it’s very obvious that it’s rapidly becoming significantly more diverse.

I appreciate you live there but having visited twice in the last year, compared to every other areas of the UK I have visited, it most certainly isn’t diverse.
In 2021, 3.2% of Cornwalls population were of ethnic minorities, presumably more now but who knows? In 2011 it was 1.8% so yes it had increased but not significantly, I presume you have more up to date numbers% Perhaps you have done your own census? What was the % when you moved there?