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[DanH]

What a bigoted, prejudice, ignorant and unwise thing to say.

I thought liberals were supposed to represent the opposite of this

Literally the opposite of all the above. I’m just as informed as Nige as to exactly why he targeted Clacton.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/68779cbb760bf6cedaf5bcfa/Clacton-on-Sea.pdf

I would have done the same if I was pushing his agenda.

Why do you think he chose Clacton?

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

So you completely and utterly believe that the £5m would come with no strings attached? Farage subsequently lobbied the Bank of England over crypto rules. Not even a tad suspicious to you?

How would you know? It was a gift from a friend.

You talk like political parties don't get donations from wealthy business men.
Do you think that the unions expect no favours for their support?

This is about a technicality. Not declaring a donation in the 12 month period before becoming an MP. Nothing more.

This is dirty politics plain and simple. It was always coming. Everybody knows it.

Don't try and pretend you don't know what is going on. It's pathetic.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Literally the opposite of all the above. I’m just as informed as Nige as to exactly why he targeted Clacton.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/68779cbb760bf6cedaf5bcfa/Clacton-on-Sea.pdf

I would have done the same if I was pushing his agenda.

Why do you think he chose Clacton?

It's a hilarious assertion.

Labour has been mugging stupid people for its whole history. Political parties depend on a lack of understanding and naivety. They avoid the truth while offering bread and circuses and false dawns to keep us sweet all the time.

It's just simple leftist arrogance to claim that people who vote to the right are less intelligent.

You are living proof of that.

 

[A22 Eagle]

This could become one of the greatest karma moments in British political history. The people of Clacton have the opportunity to destroy this odious, disgrace of a human being to political history. Vote Count Binface for the sake of this country.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

I did answer your question. Don't try to get clever.

Farage is making a point. You are assuming that Farage will be found guilty in an investigation.

For me, this is all an irrelevance. It is political mud slinging by those afraid for their jobs.

I'm more interested in the state of this country because of the policies of parties who want to get Farage out of Parliament by any means.

So much for democracy.

Holding Farage to basic scrutiny is now undemocratic.

It’s a cult.

 

[DanH]

It's a hilarious assertion.

Labour has been mugging stupid people for its whole history. Political parties depend on a lack of understanding and naivety. They avoid the truth while offering bread and circuses and false dawns to keep us sweet all the time.

It's just simple leftist arrogance to claim that people who vote to the right are less intelligent.

You are living proof of that.

So why did he chose Clacton?

 

[DanH]

Holding Farage to basic scrutiny is now undemocratic.

It’s a cult.

So funny how he calls everyone else thick and crumbles under the most facile line of questioning every single time. Farage like in itself.

 

[Stirlingsays]

So why did he chose Clacton?

White working class boomers.

What's wrong with that?

 

[DanH]

It's a hilarious assertion.

Labour has been mugging stupid people for its whole history. Political parties depend on a lack of understanding and naivety. They avoid the truth while offering bread and circuses and false dawns to keep us sweet all the time.

It's just simple leftist arrogance to claim that people who vote to the right are less intelligent.

You are living proof of that.

Or just people that actually look at the data before they make a claim.

How Britain voted in the 2024 general election

Using a sample of over 35,000 voters, YouGov looks at how voters voted at the 2024 election across factors like age, gender, class, education, income, work status, housing tenure and their vote at past elections

yougov.com

Education remains a strong indicator of how someone voted, with Labour doing a lot better than the Conservatives amongst those who have a university degree (42% to 18%). By contrast, the Tories performed marginally better than Labour amongst those whose highest level of education attained is GCSEs or lower (31% to 28%).

Reform UK also did significantly better amongst those with a lower level of education receiving 23% of the vote amongst this group, compared to just 8% amongst those with a higher level of education.

The opposite was true for the Lib Dems and Greens who did better amongst those with a higher education.

Once again, the truth is often inconvenient, isn’t it?

 

[CPFCSaturn]

So funny how he calls everyone else thick and crumbles under the most facile line of questioning every single time. Farage like in itself.

Maybe naively, I thought a major politician taking an undeclared £5m ‘gift’ is something the country would fairly unanimously agree is at best problematic, and at worst outright bent.

How far we have fallen.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

So why did he chose Clacton?

A safe seat for a party leader?

Are you unfamiliar with that political certainty?

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Or just people that actually look at the data before they make a claim.

How Britain voted in the 2024 general election

Using a sample of over 35,000 voters, YouGov looks at how voters voted at the 2024 election across factors like age, gender, class, education, income, work status, housing tenure and their vote at past elections

yougov.com

Education remains a strong indicator of how someone voted, with Labour doing a lot better than the Conservatives amongst those who have a university degree (42% to 18%). By contrast, the Tories performed marginally better than Labour amongst those whose highest level of education attained is GCSEs or lower (31% to 28%).

Reform UK also did significantly better amongst those with a lower level of education receiving 23% of the vote amongst this group, compared to just 8% amongst those with a higher level of education.

The opposite was true for the Lib Dems and Greens who did better amongst those with a higher education.

Once again, the truth is often inconvenient, isn’t it?

Proving that higher education does not guarantee against stupidity.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Or just people that actually look at the data before they make a claim.

How Britain voted in the 2024 general election

Using a sample of over 35,000 voters, YouGov looks at how voters voted at the 2024 election across factors like age, gender, class, education, income, work status, housing tenure and their vote at past elections

yougov.com

Education remains a strong indicator of how someone voted, with Labour doing a lot better than the Conservatives amongst those who have a university degree (42% to 18%). By contrast, the Tories performed marginally better than Labour amongst those whose highest level of education attained is GCSEs or lower (31% to 28%).

Reform UK also did significantly better amongst those with a lower level of education receiving 23% of the vote amongst this group, compared to just 8% amongst those with a higher level of education.

The opposite was true for the Lib Dems and Greens who did better amongst those with a higher education.

Once again, the truth is often inconvenient, isn’t it?

So what are you saying here?

This has echos of arguments that have been debunked many times but still regularly resurface as leftist talking points due to echo chambers.

The Labour movement started in the working classes, indeed until Tony Blair turned up that's where it remained.

Are you making assumptions about the intelligence level of the British working class? If so that's very fun as I can then refer to IQs for other groups.

Anyway the more educated someone is the more likely they are to exist within the establishment. With liberalism many of the rules within institutions and corporations force people to accept liberal priors and opinions on social issues that are expressly anti socially conservative. In my view this is a deliberate filtering out process and having been a secondary school teacher I've seen it myself.

 

[DanH]

A safe seat for a party leader?

Are you unfamiliar with that political certainty?

Why is it a safe seat for Nigel?

 

[DanH]

Proving that higher education does not guarantee against stupidity.

Never change Hrolf. Never change.

 

[DanH]

So what are you saying here?

This has echos of arguments that have been debunked many times but still regularly resurface as leftist talking points due to echo chambers.

The Labour movement started in the working classes, indeed until Tony Blair turned up that's where it remained.

Are you making assumptions about the intelligence level of the British working class? If so that's very fun as I can then refer to IQs for other groups.

Anyway the more educated someone is the more likely they are to exist within the establishment. With liberalism many of the rules within institutions and corporations force people to accept liberal priors and opinions on social issues that are expressly anti socially conservative. In my view this is a deliberate filtering out process and having been a secondary school teacher I've seen it myself.

I’m not saying anything. Just posting the data.

You and Hrolf are building narratives at odds with what the data suggests.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Why is it a safe seat for Nigel?

Why does Sadiq Kahn keep being Mayor?

Errr! I wonder.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

I’m not saying anything. Just posting the data.

You and Hrolf are building narratives at odds with what the data suggests.

And we know how reliable your data has been. 🤣

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Never change Hrolf. Never change.

You can be sure of that.

 

[DanH]

And we know how reliable your data has been. 🤣

You really are the gift that keeps on giving.