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Would this be considered a successful window if we keep all of our players (including Guehi running down his contract)? If not what is the optimal outcome within sensible financial realities?
 
That would be the ideal window.

We have a proven squad whuch is well drilled and extremely effective at achieving results.

We also have a number of players hopefully returning to full fitness such as Wharton and Franca to further strenghten us.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 
I wouldn't go quite so far as Patrick and call that ideal as I do believe that ideally we do need a couple more through the door (a CB and a midfielder come to mind). Also I would want us to offload Edouard and Holding (and Ahamada unless Glasner thinks he can sort him out).
 
That would be the ideal window.

We have a proven squad whuch is well drilled and extremely effective at achieving results.

We also have a number of players hopefully returning to full fitness such as Wharton and Franca to further strenghten us.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Think of a pier at the seaside,maintenance is good before it heads out to sea,a few strategic signings is in that vien.Nothing overly dramatic needed.
 
I think it's pretty poor so far, but plenty of time rectify that - it is frustrating how little early business we ever seem to get done, particularly with Glasner being so vocal about it last year.

I don't know if I view keeping Guehi for another year as a success, unless he signs a new deal. Losing a player of that calibre on a free is terrible business.

The two signings we've made are good, cost-effective squad additions, but we also need to spend some money on players who either;

a) immediately improve the first XI
b) have room to develop and improve the XI further down the line

Someone like Diomande would be the former, Hackney the latter.
 
I am fine with Guehi staying and running down his contract (when I say 'fine' I mean not angry - of course an extension would better but not going to happen) - we've had four great years from him for £20m and he's captained us to FA Cup victory

We'll preferably get cover at RB and another CB because of the Riad injury and Richards will only be just starting pre-season training when the season starts because of his international games.

I guess Lerma will be starting at CB for the Charity Shield

Shifting Holding and Edouard would be great too.
 
The window has been poor so far. But looking around, many transfer fees look very inflated, so I guess bringing in the right players at the right price is tricky.

I think we should be scouting around the best players in Championship, similar to what happened with Wharton. Better prices available. Some bargains still seem possible in countries like Belgium and the Netherlands.

We have brought in much needed cover for LB, but with Ward retiring thats 1 in, 1 out.

CB remains a problem area. Regardless of the Guehi situation, we have been short since Chalobah returned to Chelsea. Lerma has done a decent job when called upon, but we should get specialist CB's in. From the small amount I have seen Riad, he looks ok, but could be another prone to injury. We desperately need 1, or 2 more CB's.

Edouard and Holding should be offloaded off the wage bill asap.
 
I think it's pretty poor so far, but plenty of time rectify that - it is frustrating how little early business we ever seem to get done, particularly with Glasner being so vocal about it last year.

I don't know if I view keeping Guehi for another year as a success, unless he signs a new deal. Losing a player of that calibre on a free is terrible business.

The two signings we've made are good, cost-effective squad additions, but we also need to spend some money on players who either;

a) immediately improve the first XI
b) have room to develop and improve the XI further down the line

Someone like Diomande would be the former, Hackney the latter.
We know that Newcastle made a serious bid for Guehi and we assume that he did not want to go there so whether we should have accepted the bid or not is irrelevant.

Other clubs are sniffing around but we don't know what money they have offered or if Guehi wants to go there.

If Liverpool have say offered £50m and we have turned it down then I agree that is a mistake. On the other hand if Liverpool have only offered say £10m I would rather keep Guehi for the season.
 
Keeping Guehi for another season is the best thing we could hope for. He's a level headed player who will give it his all for us in the prem and Europe, knowing that he will get a bumper pay day and choice of clubs after.
18million for 5 years work is a brilliant piece of business, and we also won't have to give Chelsea anything.
 
Keeping Guehi for another season is the best thing we could hope for. He's a level headed player who will give it his all for us in the prem and Europe, knowing that he will get a bumper pay day and choice of clubs after.
18million for 5 years work is a brilliant piece of business, and we also won't have to give Chelsea anything.

Disgree. Selling for £70m and replacing with Diomande would be significantly more sensible.

Losing an asset valued at 70m last Jan for free 18months later would be sub optimal.
 
We know that Newcastle made a serious bid for Guehi and we assume that he did not want to go there so whether we should have accepted the bid or not is irrelevant.

Other clubs are sniffing around but we don't know what money they have offered or if Guehi wants to go there.

If Liverpool have say offered £50m and we have turned it down then I agree that is a mistake. On the other hand if Liverpool have only offered say £10m I would rather keep Guehi for the season.

I didn't mention Newcastle's bid, but even if we run with that, why are we assuming Guehi did not want to go there? The more likely scenario is that we rejected the offer before it even got that far, which is certainly relevant.

I think we can confidently say no one is offering £10m, and obviously agree that we would and should reject anything so derogatory.

But I'm also confident there is a market there to sell Guehi if we are realistic in our expectations.
 
I didn't mention Newcastle's bid, but even if we run with that, why are we assuming Guehi did not want to go there? The more likely scenario is that we rejected the offer before it even got that far, which is certainly relevant.

I think we can confidently say no one is offering £10m, and obviously agree that we would and should reject anything so derogatory.

But I'm also confident there is a market there to sell Guehi if we are realistic in our expectations.
No you didn't, however I did because as far as I know it is the only bid we have received so far the rest is speculation. If you believe clickbait Guehi has been holding out for Liverpool which puts them in a strong negotiating position.

I agree letting Guehi go on a free is not good business but if Liverpool are not prepared to make a serious bid I would rather we hold onto him for the season.
 
No you didn't, however I did because as far as I know it is the only bid we have received so far the rest is speculation. If you believe clickbait Guehi has been holding out for Liverpool which puts them in a strong negotiating position.

I agree letting Guehi go on a free is not good business but if Liverpool are not prepared to make a serious bid I would rather we hold onto him for the season.

From what I've read, Guehi is hesitant on Liverpool because he has less guarantees on playing time and it's a World Cup year - but as you allude to, it's all guesswork really.

If we can't find a buyer for for a 25-year old England international who's amongst the best in the division in his position... I think we have a problem!
 
Would this be considered a successful window if we keep all of our players (including Guehi running down his contract)? If not what is the optimal outcome within sensible financial realities?
Yes
 
Disgree. Selling for £70m and replacing with Diomande would be significantly more sensible.

Losing an asset valued at 70m last Jan for free 18months later would be sub optimal.
You're not getting 70m for Guehi with 1 year left and there's no guarantee Diomande would hit the ground running.
You're talking about making a profit on a player, I'm just saying that 18m for 5 years of top quality service is brilliant business.
Ideally buying Diomande and giving him a year to get up to speed would be optimal.
 
This is our team at the moment, we just need decent backups for CB n RB and of course replace whoever goes so the window is good so far 🙂

Henderson/Benitez

Muñoz/Clyne

Richards/Riad
Lacroix
Guéhi

Mitchell/Sosa

Wharton/Doucoure
Lerma can play CB/Hughes/Kamada

Eze/Devenny/Esse
Sarr/França

Mateta/Nketiah
 
This is our team at the moment, we just need decent backups for CB n RB and of course replace whoever goes so the window is good so far 🙂

Henderson/Benitez

Muñoz/Clyne

Richards/Riad
Lacroix
Guéhi

Mitchell/Sosa

Wharton/Doucoure
Lerma can play CB/Hughes/Kamada

Eze/Devenny/Esse
Sarr/França

Mateta/Nketiah
They might go for a couple of loans, being budget steve.
 
I love Marc. Superb player, seems a great character and captain. Lead us to our first ever trophy. Would be over the moon if he signed a new deal but that isn't happening. Losing England's best CB for free is not good business for a club of our size at all. Our model is to buy low and sell high, we have missed the £70mil boat. If we get offered £35-40mil i believe we should take it and re invest and rinse and repeat.
 

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