Rachel Reeves

I hate Rachel Reeves and her policies. Absolutely clueless. I run a small business and advise them daily.

The only thing that does concern be though is better the devil you know, some of the real left-wing "tax, tax and more tax" could be even worse.

She's in effect an officer of this Government. These officers make decisions around small businesses and middle England

In the words of Sergeant Harper in Sharpe. There are killing officers and murdering officers

Killing officers - are officers who get you killed by mistake
Murdering officers - are mad buggers who get you killed on purpose

What concerns me is that she is a killing officer, Angela Rayner and her kin are the latter.
 
These c**** point at Reeves, but it's these c**** who have caused it and have no intention of paying their way.

I read in his article that the top 10% pay 75% of the tax take. Irrelevant of your feelings about the super rich that is a fact that is unarguable and every one of these super rich that leaves means 1000s of minions will have to pick up the loss. Alongside any businesses who go with them. Wastage and people forever taking is the problem. 2TK should have stuck to his benefits cull but bottled it because his MPs wanted to protect their votes. Alongside the minor issue of ditching the Rwanda scheme and bibby stockholm. This is a small figure primarily compared to welfare ATM but secondary will prove to be very expensive as they will become part of the welfare take.
Basically don’t kill the goose who lays the golden egg.
 
I read in his article that the top 10% pay 75% of the tax take. Irrelevant of your feelings about the super rich that is a fact that is unarguable and every one of these super rich that leaves means 1000s of minions will have to pick up the loss. Alongside any businesses who go with them. Wastage and people forever taking is the problem. 2TK should have stuck to his benefits cull but bottled it because his MPs wanted to protect their votes. Alongside the minor issue of ditching the Rwanda scheme and bibby stockholm. This is a small figure primarily compared to welfare ATM but secondary will prove to be very expensive as they will become part of the welfare take.
Basically don’t kill the goose who lays the golden egg.

Do you think that this top 10% includes the billionaires? Of course it f***ing well doesn't.
 
Slightly different from most people's view, but I would like to see Reeves tied naked on all-fours to her office desk, and for a large Christmas tree to be inserted as far as possible up her anus.
It's really the only course of action I consider appropriate to express my contempt for the woman.
Apologies for lowering the tone.. ..again
 
Indirectly it does as they probably employ 1000s who pay tax and feed their families.
Don’t let that get in the way of a rant though 😂

Imagine excusing billionaires and fighting their corner for tax payments.

You don't seem to understand how much it is, and just how much they've pulled out of the economy into their tax havens, and this is the stagnation, their ability to suck out every penny.
 
Imagine excusing billionaires and fighting their corner for tax payments.

You don't seem to understand how much it is, and just how much they've pulled out of the economy into their tax havens, and this is the stagnation, their ability to suck out every penny.

It's not just the billionaire aspect. It's how lower Middle Britain gets f***** to.

I run a small business - employ 4 people.

So to take out £50k (and keep to basic rates) this happens.

Company
Profit before drawings - £60k
Salary - £12.5k (tax deductible - comes off the profit)
Net Profit - £47.5k
Tax due - £9k


Personal
Salary -£12.5k
Dividends -£37.5k
Total income -£50k
Tax due -£3.2k
Take home pay -£46.8k

So my combined tax bill for "earning" £60k is £12.2k and my take home is £47.8k

Someone earning £60k employed can expect to pay £11.4k tax and £3.2k NI and take home £45.4k

So I get all the shite of running my own business for an extra £2.5k.

But what happens if I want to boost my profits and earn another £10k profit in the company I take out as a dividend. If I make over £50k of profit, then my Corporation Tax is 26.5% (Marginal Rate) up to £250,000

Out of that I will lose - 26.5% Corp Tax (Marginal Rate as I'm now above the £50k small profits)
Dividend tax - 34%

so 59.5% of the extra goes to the tax man,

Get £10k as a bonus employed

40% tax
2% National Insurance
42% goes to the tax man.

So where exactly is the incentive to run a business. I get no paternity leave, sick pay. Employees (who I pay well and look after) are about to get more rights from day 1. This won't f*** the big employers, it will f*** us smaller ones.

This is where the Government plain does not understand - small business and big business are not the same.
 
It's not just the billionaire aspect. It's how lower Middle Britain gets f***** to.

I run a small business - employ 4 people.

So to take out £50k (and keep to basic rates) this happens.

Company
Profit before drawings - £60k
Salary - £12.5k (tax deductible - comes off the profit)
Net Profit - £47.5k
Tax due - £9k


Personal
Salary -£12.5k
Dividends -£37.5k
Total income -£50k
Tax due -£3.2k
Take home pay -£46.8k

So my combined tax bill for "earning" £60k is £12.2k and my take home is £47.8k

Someone earning £60k employed can expect to pay £11.4k tax and £3.2k NI and take home £45.4k

So I get all the shite of running my own business for an extra £2.5k.

But what happens if I want to boost my profits and earn another £10k profit in the company I take out as a dividend. If I make over £50k of profit, then my Corporation Tax is 26.5% (Marginal Rate) up to £250,000

Out of that I will lose - 26.5% Corp Tax (Marginal Rate as I'm now above the £50k small profits)
Dividend tax - 34%

so 59.5% of the extra goes to the tax man,

Get £10k as a bonus employed

40% tax
2% National Insurance
42% goes to the tax man.

So where exactly is the incentive to run a business. I get no paternity leave, sick pay. Employees (who I pay well and look after) are about to get more rights from day 1. This won't f*** the big employers, it will f*** us smaller ones.

This is where the Government plain does not understand - small business and big business are not the same.

I must admit the pivot away from small businesses is just bonkers......We haven't had a properly small business friendly government since the 90s it seems.
 
Most billionaires are just money movers,speculators etc who do not own a factory producing anything whatsoever!
Accumulated wealth with all the tax breaks and high interest rates does not translate into spending and investing in the economy.

'Trickle down' is b*****s', even so it is still the system since 2008.

Banking has meant economic stagnation and transfer of wealth from poor to rich, RR is from that school of neo-liberal thought.

Taking it and spending more on benefits and public services would actually produce economic growth as all of it would be spent.

Keynes, not Milton, we need you.


😎
 
Accumulated wealth with all the tax breaks and high interest rates does not translate into spending and investing in the economy.

'Trickle down' is b*****s', even so it is still the system since 2008.

Banking has meant economic stagnation and transfer of wealth from poor to rich, RR is from that school of neo-liberal thought.

Taking it and spending more on benefits and public services would actually produce economic growth as all of it would be spent.

Keynes, not Milton, we need you.


😎

Reeves has borrowing at record levels.

We are all Keynes-ed out.....In fact we have run on the Keynes model since before 2008.

It should be noted that Keynes himself never recommended for his model to be mainstreamed long term, it was only for exceptional circumstances.

You can't keep borrowing at these amounts, and just ignore the consequences, the borrowing is the highest in the G7....the interest on the repayments is getting higher..........We are 42 thousand pounds in debt for every person in the UK.

It's shoveling poverty onto the next generation.
 
Accumulated wealth with all the tax breaks and high interest rates does not translate into spending and investing in the economy.

'Trickle down' is b*****s', even so it is still the system since 2008.

Banking has meant economic stagnation and transfer of wealth from poor to rich, RR is from that school of neo-liberal thought.

Taking it and spending more on benefits and public services would actually produce economic growth as all of it would be spent.

Keynes, not Milton, we need you.


😎

Keynes was into eugenics and some of his economics was dodgy Bretton Woods was a complete surrender. I expected someone to say Elon Musk makes cars,yes it is the exception that proves the rule.












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Accumulated wealth with all the tax breaks and high interest rates does not translate into spending and investing in the economy.

'Trickle down' is b*****s', even so it is still the system since 2008.

Banking has meant economic stagnation and transfer of wealth from poor to rich, RR is from that school of neo-liberal thought.

Taking it and spending more on benefits and public services would actually produce economic growth as all of it would be spent.

Keynes, not Milton, we need you.


😎
Do you communist economists also believe that the tooth fairy leaves money under your pillow if you lose a tooth?
 
Reeves has borrowing at record levels.

We are all Keynes-ed out.....In fact we have run on the Keynes model since before 2008.

It should be noted that Keynes himself never recommended for his model to be mainstreamed long term, it was only for exceptional circumstances.

You can't keep borrowing at these amounts, and just ignore the consequences, the borrowing is the highest in the G7....the interest on the repayments is getting higher..........We are 42 thousand pounds in debt for every person in the UK.

It's shoveling poverty onto the next generation.
Let's not get facts in the way of a good rant.

Reeves inherited massive govt debt that has doubled in the last decade, only some of which is due to covid.

Clearly it's not going down since, but to put the blame on her is simply deluded.


In 2005 the UK National Debt was less that £0.5 trillion. But then came the worldwide financial crisis of 2008 and subsequent recession. The National Debt increased rapidly and went over £1 trillion in 2011 and over £1.5 trillion in 2016. With COVID, debt exceeded £2 trillion in 2021. At the end of March 2025 the National Debt was £2.81 trillion.

In terms of Gross Domestic Product the UK National Debt in 2005 was about 38 percent of GDP.

But in the last ten years, in the wake of the Crash of 2008 and subsequent recession, the National Debt doubled to over 80 percent GDP, and exceeded 100 percent of GDP after COVID. At the end of March 2025 the National Debt was 97.7 percent of GDP.
 
It's not just the billionaire aspect. It's how lower Middle Britain gets f***** to.

I run a small business - employ 4 people.

So to take out £50k (and keep to basic rates) this happens.

Company
Profit before drawings - £60k
Salary - £12.5k (tax deductible - comes off the profit)
Net Profit - £47.5k
Tax due - £9k


Personal
Salary -£12.5k
Dividends -£37.5k
Total income -£50k
Tax due -£3.2k
Take home pay -£46.8k

So my combined tax bill for "earning" £60k is £12.2k and my take home is £47.8k

Someone earning £60k employed can expect to pay £11.4k tax and £3.2k NI and take home £45.4k

So I get all the shite of running my own business for an extra £2.5k.

But what happens if I want to boost my profits and earn another £10k profit in the company I take out as a dividend. If I make over £50k of profit, then my Corporation Tax is 26.5% (Marginal Rate) up to £250,000

Out of that I will lose - 26.5% Corp Tax (Marginal Rate as I'm now above the £50k small profits)
Dividend tax - 34%

so 59.5% of the extra goes to the tax man,

Get £10k as a bonus employed

40% tax
2% National Insurance
42% goes to the tax man.

So where exactly is the incentive to run a business. I get no paternity leave, sick pay. Employees (who I pay well and look after) are about to get more rights from day 1. This won't f*** the big employers, it will f*** us smaller ones.

This is where the Government plain does not understand - small business and big business are not the same.

Surely you don't run a small business to save tax do you? What's the incentive? Well you are your own boss, surely that's the main advantage.

Surely the biggest issue for any small business trying to expand, which you haven't mentioned, is the VAT threshold that kicks in at £90k p.a. If a business has c £80k annual income/revenue it is rarely worthwhile expanding as the VAT will add 20% to costs, potentially making the business uncompetitive.
 
Let's not get facts in the way of a good rant.

Reeves inherited massive govt debt that has doubled in the last decade, only some of which is due to covid.

Clearly it's not going down since, but to put the blame on her is simply deluded.

You don't put blame on her for what she walked into.....but you should blame her for making it worse.

When Reeves started last July, the UK economy, under the Tories had grown relatively strongly in the first half of 2024 with GDP expanding by 0.9% in Q1 2024 (up from an initial estimate of 0.8%) and 0.5% in Q2 2024 (up from 0.4%). This made the UK the fastest-growing G7 economy during that period.

Inflation was stable at around 2% in mid-2024, meeting the Bank of England’s target. Real household disposable income per head, a key measure of living standards, was improving, with growth reported at 1.7% in Q4 2024, the fastest in two years.

Compared to now, business confidence was relatively high in early 2024, supported by economic recovery from a mild recession in 2023, with GDP growth of 0.7% in Q1 2024 outpacing other G7 nations. However, anticipation of Labour’s policy changes, including tax rises, began to dampen sentiment by mid-2024

Under Reeves however pretty much everything has gotten worse.

The economy flatlined in Q3 2024 (0% growth, revised down from initial estimates) and grew by only 0.1% in Q4 2024. By early 2025, GDP contracted by 0.1% in January, April, and May 2025, raising concerns about a potential recession. This contrasts sharply with the 0.9% and 0.5% growth in Q1 and Q2 2024 under the Conservatives.

Manufacturing and construction have been weak, with manufacturing output falling 1.1% in January 2025 and retail sales described as “very weak” in April and May 2025. The services sector, a major driver of UK growth, grew by only 0.1% in early 2025, insufficient to offset industrial declines.

Business surveys indicate companies have frozen hiring and delayed investments due to policy uncertainty, particularly after Reeves’s £25bn increase in employer national insurance contributions (NICs) in April 2025 and an inflation-busting minimum wage rise. These policies have been blamed for eroding boardroom confidence.

Reeves has faced criticism for policy U-turns, such as reversing cuts to winter fuel payments and disability benefits, which have strained public finances and increased speculation about autumn 2025 tax rises. The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) halved its 2025 growth forecast from 2% to 1%, reflecting pessimism about Labour’s economic stewardship.

In 2005 the UK National Debt was less that £0.5 trillion. But then came the worldwide financial crisis of 2008 and subsequent recession. The National Debt increased rapidly and went over £1 trillion in 2011 and over £1.5 trillion in 2016. With COVID, debt exceeded £2 trillion in 2021. At the end of March 2025 the National Debt was £2.81 trillion.

In terms of Gross Domestic Product the UK National Debt in 2005 was about 38 percent of GDP.

But in the last ten years, in the wake of the Crash of 2008 and subsequent recession, the National Debt doubled to over 80 percent GDP, and exceeded 100 percent of GDP after COVID. At the end of March 2025 the National Debt was 97.7 percent of GDP.

All these were decisions that the uniparty took. I don't remember Labour voting against the economic decisions taken over covid, in fact they wanted longer lockdowns, also they have been fully behind the economic war with Russia that is partly responsible for much higher energy bills (the highest in Europe).

Labour are a part of the neo/socially liberal consensus in Europe and as such are fully deserving of the criticism for their policy decisions that have taken us here.
 
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She did indeed inherit a shower of shlt from the Tories. The economy was heading for a nosedive before COVID hit, so that's not an excuse for the Tories.

But Reeves has unbelievably made things worse. Instead of recovering, the economy is in a constant stall, with the nose pitching downwards, with rising costs of living.
 
Over my lifetime the average person is better off although many would dispute that. The number of benefits and people on benefits has vastly increased in that time period.

The definition of poor has expanded from say the 1960's to today, where someone is poor even if they have a mobile phone and 2 week foreign holiday.

However I think we are heading for a major fall. Politicians and the public don't want to consider the possibility that the good times are coming to an end.

One of the stats not been quoted is job vacancies. In the last 3 years the BBC has reported the number of vacancies has dropped every month.

We have a huge amount of debt and taxation at record levels. At some point we will have to make cuts, where and by how much is up to Parliament to sort out. However my point is that people may have to get use to not doing as well as they have in the past.

The baby boomer generation may well be the peak.
 
Nationwide have introduced a free 'phone benefits line to help eveyone not just customers with the quagmire of how to claim, what is available etc helping and explaining financial matters must be applauded.
 

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