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Rachel Reeves

I would not disagree with that,I've invested for a number of years and hit many good winners. Arm Holdings, Rolls Royce (36p in a rights issue),3i,AZN rolled out of ICI. Babcock int.Halma etc etc.
I've got Rolls Royce, didn't buy at 36p - you must be quids in.
 
It’s not the stock markets. It’s the bond, gilt and currency markets.

They are a much better indicator of economic confidence as it is the cost of government borrowing and value of the currency.
10 year gilt yields are higher under Labour and Reeves than they ever were under Truss and have been so for all of 2025, Truss was in power for a MONTH.

If Gilts are your measure then Labour and Truss are consistently worse and for a longer period than Truss
 
10 year gilt yields are higher under Labour and Reeves than they ever were under Truss and have been so for all of 2025, Truss was in power for a MONTH.

If Gilts are your measure then Labour and Truss are consistently worse and for a longer period than Truss

They’ve never recovered from Truss.
 
Do you understand how to read charts Owen?
Yes thank you

The higher yield indicates the markets that lend to the UK have less confidence in the way the economy is being managed and how the debt burden is growing.

If you are suggesting that a higher yield is a good thing then you can't criticise Truss, plain fact is yield is higher now than it ever was under Truss' leadership.
 
Yes thank you

The higher yield indicates the markets that lend to the UK have less confidence in the way the economy is being managed and how the debt burden is growing.

If you are suggesting that a higher yield is a good thing then you can't criticise Truss, plain fact is yield is higher now than it ever was under Truss' leadership.

Do you understand how to read it before Liz Truss came in?
 
Do you understand how to read it before Liz Truss came in?
Ok let's try this.

Your assertion is the bond yield is higher today than it would be, had there been no Truss budget.

That being the case, what do you think the rate would be today has there not been a Truss budget and what is your supporting argument for the number

I am more than prepared to change my mind if presented with solid evidence.
 
Ok let's try this.

Your assertion is the bond yield is higher today than it would be, had there been no Truss budget.

That being the case, what do you think the rate would be today has there not been a Truss budget and what is your supporting argument for the number

I am more than prepared to change my mind if presented with solid evidence.

Possibly close to what it is now, it was creeping up and would have gone higher anyway.

Your good ol’ Liz just decided to tie a rocket to it and do it overnight instead of let people carefully plan what to do with it.
 
Possibly close to what it is now, it was creeping up and would have gone higher anyway.

Your good ol’ Liz just decided to tie a rocket to it and do it overnight instead of let people carefully plan what to do with it.
OK , how did you arrive at that conclusion?

So you are saying it would be where it is anyway but in your view the difference is how it got to where it is from the date of the " mini budget " on Sep 23rd.

The idea that people would carefully plan is nonsense unless they had the power of seeing into the future.

She is not my Liz Truss at all, I think her ideas had merit but her implementation strategy was ill considered.


She was I think wrong and wronged but was a convenient scapegoat.

The economic conditions existed that led to the spike before she was PM

There a number of articles to this effect from proper economists without any political axes to grind.

Personally I piled into Sterling at 8.43 to the HKD in September 2022, despite not being able to read a chart apparently it worked out rather well

I sold that position at two years later at 10.43 and earned in addition to ROE gain 3.5% per annum fixed deposit rate
 
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OK , how did you arrive at that conclusion?

So you are saying it would be where it is anyway but in your view the difference is how it got to where it is from the date of the " mini budget " on Sep 23rd.

The idea that people would carefully plan in nonsense unless they has the power or seeing into the future.

She is not my Liz Truss at all, I think her ideas had merit but her implementation strategy was ill considered.


She was I think wrong and wronged but was a convenient scapegoat.

The economic conditions existed that led to the spike before she was PM

There a number of articles to this effect from proper economists without any political axes to grind.

Personally I piled into Sterling at 8.43 to the HKD in September 2022, despite not being able to read a chart apparently it worked out rather well

I sold that position at two years later at 10.43 and earned in addition to ROE gain 3.5% per annum fixed deposit rate
I think Kwasi Kwarteng was shafted by his boss
 
OK , how did you arrive at that conclusion?

So you are saying it would be where it is anyway but in your view the difference is how it got to where it is from the date of the " mini budget " on Sep 23rd.

The idea that people would carefully plan is nonsense unless they had the power of seeing into the future.

She is not my Liz Truss at all, I think her ideas had merit but her implementation strategy was ill considered.


She was I think wrong and wronged but was a convenient scapegoat.

The economic conditions existed that led to the spike before she was PM

There a number of articles to this effect from proper economists without any political axes to grind.

Personally I piled into Sterling at 8.43 to the HKD in September 2022, despite not being able to read a chart apparently it worked out rather well

I sold that position at two years later at 10.43 and earned in addition to ROE gain 3.5% per annum fixed deposit rate

Good work. Hope some of the gain is going to HMT.
 

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