Rachel Reeves

beak said:
I'm very proud that Labour are not playing musical chairs with the Prime Ministers or the Chancellors jobs the way the Tories did. Whose turn is it now? Lets give Liz a few weeks in the job etc etc unprofessional lot.
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An exemplar of the Peter Principle.
 
beak said:
I'm very proud that Labour are not playing musical chairs with the Prime Ministers or the Chancellors jobs the way the Tories did. Whose turn is it now? Lets give Liz a few weeks in the job etc etc unprofessional lot.
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Thanks for bringing a smile after such a calamitous budget. It's not musical chairs, it's the deckchairs on the Titanic for Labour.

Seriously, do you think the Govts has done a good job with the two budgets since taking control?

Party loyalty is one thing but....
 
Before we get a load more rubbish over who runs the country ,it is the electorate not a straw poll of tory malcontents who believe every word made up by the Daily Mail. The ONLY poll that counts is the General Election. Another factor is that forecasts by their very nature go wrong, I have a friend who is an Actuary and she freely admits to working out her projections and then working out her excuses as to why they go awry.
 
beak said:
Before we get a load more rubbish over who runs the country ,it is the electorate not a straw poll of tory malcontents who believe every word made up by the Daily Mail. The ONLY poll that counts is the General Election. Another factor is that forecasts by their very nature go wrong, I have a friend who is an Actuary and she freely admits to working out her projections and then working out her excuses as to why they go awry.
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I don't think anyone on here is saying different. Opinion polls though are a fact of life and the left constantly referred to them when the Tories were in power. Governments do pay attention to them although they rarely admit it.

You are still ducking the main issue that is upsetting people. Labour have claimed that tax rises are inevitable due to circumstances beyond their control and that is simply not true.

The OBR has said their is a surplus not a deficit as Reeves and Starmer claim.

Labour in opposition said they would get to grips with the soaring benefits bill and bottled it. They also said that they would improve efficiency in the public sector and instead chose to hand out pay rises with no strings attached.

In summary Labour had choices and instead is claiming it didn't. That is what people are upset about, the lying.

you can shrug your shoulders as much as you like and say so what, the Tories did the same (they did) and look what happened to them at the GE.
 
Badger11 said:
I don't think anyone on here is saying different. Opinion polls though are a fact of life and the left constantly referred to them when the Tories were in power. Governments do pay attention to them although they rarely admit it.

You are still ducking the main issue that is upsetting people. Labour have claimed that tax rises are inevitable due to circumstances beyond their control and that is simply not true.

The OBR has said their is a surplus not a deficit as Reeves and Starmer claim.

Labour in opposition said they would get to grips with the soaring benefits bill and bottled it. They also said that they would improve efficiency in the public sector and instead chose to hand out pay rises with no strings attached.

In summary Labour had choices and instead is claiming it didn't. That is what people are upset about, the lying.

you can shrug your shoulders as much as you like and say so what, the Tories did the same (they did) and look what happened to them at the GE.
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It will never happen. 😆 😆 😆
 
HKOwen said:
Thanks for bringing a smile after such a calamitous budget. It's not musical chairs, it's the deckchairs on the Titanic for Labour.

Seriously, do you think the Govts has done a good job with the two budgets since taking control?

Party loyalty is one thing but....
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Mr Beak, cannot trace a reply

This was posted before the clear lying of Reeves and Starmer re the budget was exposed but the question still valid
 
Reeves won't last now. Maybe Starmer and Reeves. This story is rolling on and on. There is no fiscal hole, just lies. People are not just going to shrug their shoulders and say, "that's fine, I'll pay more tax to fund benefits". That's the exact opposite of what everyone who works thinks. Labour's judgement is worse than Micheal Foot's fashion sense.
 
ASCPFC said:
Reeves won't last now. Maybe Starmer and Reeves. This story is rolling on and on. There is no fiscal hole, just lies. People are not just going to shrug their shoulders and say, "that's fine, I'll pay more tax to fund benefits". That's the exact opposite of what everyone who works thinks. Labour's judgement is worse than Micheal Foot's fashion sense.
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Labour are 'circling the wagons' and leaving both Reeves and Starmer outside the circle.
 
ASCPFC said:
Reeves won't last now. Maybe Starmer and Reeves. This story is rolling on and on. There is no fiscal hole, just lies. People are not just going to shrug their shoulders and say, "that's fine, I'll pay more tax to fund benefits". That's the exact opposite of what everyone who works thinks. Labour's judgement is worse than Micheal Foot's fashion sense.
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It won't be the right of labour ,it won't be reform or the tories who decide her fate she knows this all to well so it was a left leaning budget that put her in the good books with the Labour left,whilst security and politics are quite frankly strange bedfellows, it must be said there are far more labour left wingers than right wingers. Every time she speaks she will say something about soaking the rich and will stay in place.
 
beak said:
It won't be the right of labour ,it won't be reform or the tories who decide her fate she knows this all to well so it was a left leaning budget that put her in the good books with the Labour left,whilst security and politics are quite frankly strange bedfellows, it must be said there are far more labour left wingers than right wingers. Every time she speaks she will say something about soaking the rich and will stay in place.
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By that logic, Starmer will be gone soon. Although I don't entirely disagree with you. Perhaps he has his ace in the hole for when his secret comes out of the closet. That might placate the left. I'm not sure anyone's thought of that little ruse.
 
Nicholas Joicey

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Reeves husband. Interesting that he's been on leave from the civil service/ government since she got the job . He was also speech writer for Gordon Brown when he was Blair's Chancellor. God knows what he's been up to in the background
 
ASCPFC said:
By that logic, Starmer will be gone soon. Although I don't entirely disagree with you. Perhaps he has his ace in the hole for when his secret comes out of the closet. That might placate the left. I'm not sure anyone's thought of that little ruse.
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Labour have always elected a right/left combination to appease both wings of the Party that way things don't get as fractious as those Tories who always have major bust ups would you like me to document Brexit etc etc.
 
beak said:
Labour have always elected a right/left combination to appease both wings of the Party that way things don't get as fractious as those Tories who always have major bust ups would you like me to document Brexit etc etc.
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Seriously ?

So the No.10 briefings against Wes Streeting, the U-turns of the Winter Fuel Allowance, Workers Rights Bill, Welfare Reform you wouldn't consider to be as fractious as the Tories ?

The U-turn on increasing Income Tax ? Nasty, Manifesto breaking medicine, but arguably the best course of treatment for the sick economy. But no, the self serving Reeves and Starmer put self preservation first over what was an undeniably unpopular solution but one that would have been the most effective.

And you fall into the trap of referring everything back to the Tories. It's called ' deflection '. Starmer and Reeves are masters of that art ( the only thing they are masters of ). This shitshow of a Government, led by a weak and uninspiring Leader, are presiding over messes of their own making.
 
NEILLO said:
Seriously ?

So the No.10 briefings against Wes Streeting, the U-turns of the Winter Fuel Allowance, Workers Rights Bill, Welfare Reform you wouldn't consider to be as fractious as the Tories ?

The U-turn on increasing Income Tax ? Nasty, Manifesto breaking medicine, but arguably the best course of treatment for the sick economy. But no, the self serving Reeves and Starmer put self preservation first over what was an undeniably unpopular solution but one that would have been the most effective.

And you fall into the trap of referring everything back to the Tories. It's called ' deflection '. Starmer and Reeves are masters of that art ( the only thing they are masters of ). This shitshow of a Government, led by a weak and uninspiring Leader, are presiding over messes of their own making.
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The Tories are notoriously fractious look at the number of leaders they have had even number tens cat was in the running. 😆
 
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