Prostate Cancer test

[Bassak]

Wellsprings Serenity Natural Progesterone Cream - Wellsprings Health - Natural Hormone Help

A natural, bioidentical progesterone cream used for relief of menopause symptoms and other conditions related to hormone imbalance.

www.wellsprings-health.com

This is a progesterone cream for the menopause. Both women and men's menopause.

As men reach a certain age their testosterone levels drop and estrogen levels increase. I believe the opposite happens for women.

Anyways,due to bpa oil in plastics, soya and other oestrogen mimicking things, mens oestrogen levels have increased over the years.

This progesterone cream balances up the two hormones testosterone and oestrogen in men and women.

What's causing the rise in prostate cancer is debatable, however I understand that it is in part due to an imbalance in these two hormones.

The cream works brilliantly with women. If you have any menopausal ladies in your life; this product works fantastically well.

I looked up Progesterone cream and Prostate cancer and it came back with this

There is no strong clinical proof that over-the-counter progesterone cream cures or safely treats prostate cancer. While some alternative health groups claim progesterone blocks 5-alpha-reductase or balances hormones, recent medical research shows that progesterone can actually act as an oncogenic driver, fueling cancer cell growth and worsening outcomes in advanced prostate cases.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

I looked up Progesterone cream and Prostate cancer and it came back with this

There is no strong clinical proof that over-the-counter progesterone cream cures or safely treats prostate cancer. While some alternative health groups claim progesterone blocks 5-alpha-reductase or balances hormones, recent medical research shows that progesterone can actually act as an oncogenic driver, fueling cancer cell growth and worsening outcomes in advanced prostate cases.

When it’s promoted by an unrepentant conspiracy theorist what do you expect?

 

[rob1969]

i will shortly be having my annual PSA test - followed by a 2 minute phone call from urology at Epsom - if they don't forget - to tell me me it gone up a bit or the same -or even gone down a bit.
This has been going on now for best part of 20 years. They confirmed the presence of cancer about 12 years ago and have been 'monitoring' since. Take medication and do not suffer discomfort or trouble peeing, Things don't work as well as they once did - partly due to medication and that I'm 81 now - so
not too much use for it anyway!

They say that most men with prostate cancer die with it - rather than of it. Which I hope is true.
Get the impression now that they happy to leave me be now as statistically I should pop my cloggs in the near future.anyway of something else. Certainly got the impression that they really lost interest in me now !
Hopefully I will confound them by still having my annual PSA test when turned 90! COYP !

 

[Palace Old Geezer]

When it’s promoted by an unrepentant conspiracy theorist what do you expect?

I missed your original post Wisbech, but reading your recent notes I searched it out.

Sounds like you and I have similar stories to tell, mine is pushing back too, so just to say 'good luck to you mate - keep fighting'.

 

[grumpymort]

This is so wrong it really ought not be allowed to remain here as it could lead to someone distrusting the value of checking your PSA. It’s an extremely important indicator which guides the oncologist on what further investigations are required and following them with interventions. Alongside how and when any interventions are required. Many are put on “watchful waiting” with routine PSA tests used to determine how fast the cancer is growing.

Diet and exercise are very important for your general health but they play no role at all in the management of prostate cancer. They can only help you manage its symptoms.

Are you a scientist or ever been one? I know already the answer NO.

I put you in your place with the covid stuff when you tried to go on about science and tests etc.

Guidelines are made up by a panel of people they are not from science with a large % of these people on the panel having a financial interest.

PSA does not inform on cancer growth please go and learn some science (psa focuses on a specific protein it has 0 to do with cancer)

Diet/Exercise/Lifestyle is important for all of life not general health and to claim they do not play a role in disease management again shown this is a subject you have 0 clue about please stop commenting you are not educated in this field and really showing it.

 

[madcap_v2]

That is not being health conscious it's getting into the realms that you may have some sort of mental disorder or even OCD.

It's your choice what to waste money on.

PSA has not been proven to be worthwhile that is like claiming the covid tests are both are a waste of money and step in the process.

People will get sick that is life and keep getting blood work etc done changes nothing because reference rangers they use are made up (They change them and not all labs use the same either)

If you are realty focused on health exercise/lifestyle/diet these are the things to focus on not getting labs which really do not tell a great deal.

Bit of a dickhead aren't you...?

I wish whatever it is in life that is making you so "grumpy", soon passes so you can integrate properly with society.

 

[Spiderman]

Bit of a dickhead aren't you...?

I wish whatever it is in life that is making you so "grumpy", soon passes so you can integrate properly with society.

Certainly appears, given his posts over the years, he has an agenda against large pharmaceutical companies. He also, apparently, knows more about nutrition than top quality nutritionists working for very successful sportspeople. Best to let him grumble on I suppose!
madcap do what you consider best for your health and take the advice of those you trust. Look after yourself 👍

 

[georgenorman]

We are in danger of disappearing up our own backsides with this thread.

 

[Mattconrov]

I looked up Progesterone cream and Prostate cancer and it came back with this

There is no strong clinical proof that over-the-counter progesterone cream cures or safely treats prostate cancer. While some alternative health groups claim progesterone blocks 5-alpha-reductase or balances hormones, recent medical research shows that progesterone can actually act as an oncogenic driver, fueling cancer cell growth and worsening outcomes in advanced prostate cases.

I wasn't suggesting it cured prostate cancer. It may prevent it though. Funnily enough I'd never read any information on it vaguely claiming it to cure prostate cancer until now. Lol

I suggested that prostate cancer may be due to a hormone imbalance. The harmonising of testosterone and oestrogen using natural remedies; have certainly helped a number of menopausal women I know.

My suggestion is it may be of some help for men.

BTW. I didn't look up any of this information

 

[Mattconrov]

When it’s promoted by an unrepentant conspiracy theorist what do you expect?

Unrepentant, what have I to repent? Lol

 

[Mattconrov]

When it’s promoted by an unrepentant conspiracy theorist what do you expect?

Where did I say it cures cancer?

 

[grumpymort]

Certainly appears, given his posts over the years, he has an agenda against large pharmaceutical companies. He also, apparently, knows more about nutrition than top quality nutritionists working for very successful sportspeople. Best to let him grumble on I suppose!
madcap do what you consider best for your health and take the advice of those you trust. Look after yourself 👍

I tell it how it is if you don't like it's a you problem.

I have always said prove me wrong if I have gotten something wrong bring to the front the evidence no one has ever done so.

What is a top nutritionist? there is no such thing that is the sort of title which is made up by media to claim someone is special in a field when there is no such thing especially in nutrition and looking at only that field of science proves they don't know about the subject you need to be disciplined in multi sciences.

These sports people follow the education system teachings this is how they gained knowledge and put it into practice just like dieticians etc that education system is not science based again it was made up by food industry/big phama. (Competing in these sports in not natural and they are choosing to not eat natural either this is why you see some many of them run into issues later on)

There is many athletes who do not follow this model they never talk about I know I have consulted with them and understand the reasons why they keep it quiet.

 

[Spiderman]

I tell it how it is if you don't like it's a you problem.

I have always said prove me wrong if I have gotten something wrong bring to the front the evidence no one has ever done so.

What is a top nutritionist? there is no such thing that is the sort of title which is made up by media to claim someone is special in a field when there is no such thing especially in nutrition and looking at only that field of science proves they don't know about the subject you need to be disciplined in multi sciences.

These sports people follow the education system teachings this is how they gained knowledge and put it into practice just like dieticians etc that education system is not science based again it was made up by food industry/big phama. (Competing in these sports in not natural and they are choosing to not eat natural either this is why you see some many of them run into issues later on)

There is many athletes who do not follow this model they never talk about I know I have consulted with them and understand the reasons why they keep it quiet.

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[Bassak]

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I asked AI who the top nutritionist Was and it came back with
Professor Jason Arday of Cambridge University

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Unrepentant, what have I to repent? Lol

Thanks for proving my point so succinctly!

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Where did I say it cures cancer?

Has nothing to do with what I said.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

I wasn't suggesting it cured prostate cancer. It may prevent it though. Funnily enough I'd never read any information on it vaguely claiming it to cure prostate cancer until now. Lol

I suggested that prostate cancer may be due to a hormone imbalance. The harmonising of testosterone and oestrogen using natural remedies; have certainly helped a number of menopausal women I know.

My suggestion is it may be of some help for men.

BTW. I didn't look up any of this information

At least that can be believed!

 

[Spiderman]

I tell it how it is if you don't like it's a you problem.

I have always said prove me wrong if I have gotten something wrong bring to the front the evidence no one has ever done so.

What is a top nutritionist? there is no such thing that is the sort of title which is made up by media to claim someone is special in a field when there is no such thing especially in nutrition and looking at only that field of science proves they don't know about the subject you need to be disciplined in multi sciences.

These sports people follow the education system teachings this is how they gained knowledge and put it into practice just like dieticians etc that education system is not science based again it was made up by food industry/big phama. (Competing in these sports in not natural and they are choosing to not eat natural either this is why you see some many of them run into issues later on)

There is many athletes who do not follow this model they never talk about I know I have consulted with them and understand the reasons why they keep it quiet.

Just proved my point 👍