Next manager poll

Next manager (latest odds)

  • Thomas Frank 5/1

  • Roger Schmidt 8/1

  • Roberto Martinez 10/1

  • Jose Bordalas 10/1

  • Southgate 10/1

  • Frank Lampard 12/1

  • Kieran Mckenna 12/1

  • Brendan Rodgers 14/1

  • Sean Dyche 12/1

  • Robbie Keane

  • Andoni Iraola 4-1

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Willo said:
I was in conversation with a long-time supporter who expressed a degree of concern apropos the appointment of Sage.
In his view it is a significant gamble, given that Sage's managerial experience is far from extensive and he has been lauded in the wake of a solitary successful season in a League somewhat less challenging than the PL.
He stated that when Glasner was appointed he had been a manager for some 10 years, he propelled Wolfsburg to 4th in the Bundesliga and steered Eintracht Frankfurt to European cup success.
This supporter had a preference for Sean Dyche whom he opined was a 'Safe pair of hands' with extensive PL experience and would have been a good 'Fit' at our club.
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He took Lyon (given all the issues they had/have) from bottom to 6th, an to the cup final.

Was on target for CL qualification in 2nd season and Textor sacked him, against fans wishes.

Then achieved what he did with Lens.

Not extensive, but pretty impressive. Especially given the circumstances.
 
Willo said:
I was in conversation with a long-time supporter who expressed a degree of concern apropos the appointment of Sage.
In his view it is a significant gamble, given that Sage's managerial experience is far from extensive and he has been lauded in the wake of a solitary successful season in a League somewhat less challenging than the PL.
He stated that when Glasner was appointed he had been a manager for some 10 years, he propelled Wolfsburg to 4th in the Bundesliga and steered Eintracht Frankfurt to European cup success.
This supporter had a preference for Sean Dyche whom he opined was a 'Safe pair of hands' with extensive PL experience and would have been a good 'Fit' at our club.
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Before going to Bournemouth Iraola had only managed one top flight team across Europe's top leagues. I'm not saying Sage is going to be as successful as Iraola but it proves top flight experience isn't necessarily a key factor in deciding whether a manager will be successful or not.

I understand some might want a 'safe pair of hands' but then the potential upside is significantly reduced imo. Plus most of those considered 'a Safe pair of hands' are actually still just living off of previous reputation and don't guarantee anything.

I'm happy to take a calculated risk on Sage, the ceiling is higher if he succeeds and if not there'll always be these so called 'Safe pair of hands' waiting for a job.
 
MrRobbo said:
He took Lyon (given all the issues they had/have) from bottom to 6th, an to the cup final.

Was on target for CL qualification in 2nd season and Textor sacked him, against fans wishes.

Then achieved what he did with Lens.

Not extensive, but pretty impressive. Especially given the circumstances.
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his lack of European top flight experience is a concern, especially as he is no spring chicken at 47.

However, getting Lens to 2nd in France is very impressive, more so than the cup success IMHO.

He also got a tune out of Edouard, which is perhaps even more impressive.

Every managerial appointment is a risk - let's give him time and see how things are at Christmas. I'm expecting us to potentially have a slow start to the season - new manager, players returning late from the world cup, maybe one or two key players leaving etc.
 
Willo said:
I was in conversation with a long-time supporter who expressed a degree of concern apropos the appointment of Sage.
In his view it is a significant gamble, given that Sage's managerial experience is far from extensive and he has been lauded in the wake of a solitary successful season in a League somewhat less challenging than the PL.
He stated that when Glasner was appointed he had been a manager for some 10 years, he propelled Wolfsburg to 4th in the Bundesliga and steered Eintracht Frankfurt to European cup success.
This supporter had a preference for Sean Dyche whom he opined was a 'Safe pair of hands' with extensive PL experience and would have been a good 'Fit' at our club.
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I was reading with interest what this long term supporters opinion was and thinking he may well have a point…..until I read that last paragraph and I realised he needs locking up in the funny farm and never be allowed to see the light of day again
 
palace99 said:
his lack of European top flight experience is a concern, especially as he is no spring chicken at 47.

However, getting Lens to 2nd in France is very impressive, more so than the cup success IMHO.

He also got a tune out of Edouard, which is perhaps even more impressive.

Every managerial appointment is a risk - let's give him time and see how things are at Christmas. I'm expecting us to potentially have a slow start to the season - new manager, players returning late from the world cup, maybe one or two key players leaving etc.
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Most PL teams will have a significant number of their 1st choice players coming back late from the World Cup so basically a level playing field. As for the new manager issue, Sage'll likely play the same system as Glasner to begin with and only gradually bring in his own tweaks. He's known for his flexibility
 
samprior said:
Before going to Bournemouth Iraola had only managed one top flight team across Europe's top leagues. I'm not saying Sage is going to be as successful as Iraola but it proves top flight experience isn't necessarily a key factor in deciding whether a manager will be successful or not.

I understand some might want a 'safe pair of hands' but then the potential upside is significantly reduced imo. Plus most of those considered 'a Safe pair of hands' are actually still just living off of previous reputation and don't guarantee anything.

I'm happy to take a calculated risk on Sage, the ceiling is higher if he succeeds and if not there'll always be these so called 'Safe pair of hands' waiting for a job.
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Fair point but in the case of Iraola and say the Brighton manager, the other factor is their age.

They had only recently retired so purely based on age their managerial experience was naturally limited.

Sage is 47, so his circumstances are a little different.

Not jumping into a managerial role on day 1 and/or learning your trade working with younger age groups and/or scouting is not necessarily a negative, it's just different from your Iraola example, who started managing at 36 soon after retiring.
 
doombear said:
Most PL teams will have a significant number of their 1st choice players coming back late from the World Cup so basically a level playing field. As for the new manager issue, Sage'll likely play the same system as Glasner to begin with and only gradually bring in his own tweaks. He's known for his flexibility
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100% not a level playing field. The bigger clubs will benefit as their squads are larger and better quality.

They can rotate etc and clearly their squad players are often internationals in their own right.

Palace have a paper thin squad and a couple of injuries/loss of form etc will have a drastic effect. Last Dec and Jan was always the perfect storm for Palace - too many games, a few injuries etc and our form nosedived. It could be repeated
 
palace99 said:
100% not a level playing field. The bigger clubs will benefit as their squads are larger and better quality.

They can rotate etc and clearly their squad players are often internationals in their own right.

Palace have a paper thin squad and a couple of injuries/loss of form etc will have a drastic effect. Last Dec and Jan was always the perfect storm for Palace - too many games, a few injuries etc and our form nosedived. It could be repeated
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The squads will be exactly the same, 25 named players, agree with the quality, but, tbf, we ain't that bad oursleves.
 
Willo said:
I was in conversation with a long-time supporter who expressed a degree of concern apropos the appointment of Sage.
In his view it is a significant gamble, given that Sage's managerial experience is far from extensive and he has been lauded in the wake of a solitary successful season in a League somewhat less challenging than the PL.
He stated that when Glasner was appointed he had been a manager for some 10 years, he propelled Wolfsburg to 4th in the Bundesliga and steered Eintracht Frankfurt to European cup success.
This supporter had a preference for Sean Dyche whom he opined was a 'Safe pair of hands' with extensive PL experience and would have been a good 'Fit' at our club.
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Good job this supporter isn't in charge of the club. Dyche would have been an awful regression.

Please inform him that Sage is not being lauded simply "in the wake of a solitary successful season" but rather three of them (and a host of other roles).
 
palace99 said:
his lack of European top flight experience is a concern, especially as he is no spring chicken at 47.

However, getting Lens to 2nd in France is very impressive, more so than the cup success IMHO.

He also got a tune out of Edouard, which is perhaps even more impressive.

Every managerial appointment is a risk - let's give him time and see how things are at Christmas. I'm expecting us to potentially have a slow start to the season - new manager, players returning late from the world cup, maybe one or two key players leaving etc.
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No spring chicken? We aren't using him as a replacement for Mateta up front.

47 for a manager absolutely is a spring chicken. He could easily have 20 years still ahead of him in his managerial career.
 
MrRobbo said:
He took Lyon (given all the issues they had/have) from bottom to 6th, an to the cup final.

Was on target for CL qualification in 2nd season and Textor sacked him, against fans wishes.

Then achieved what he did with Lens.

Not extensive, but pretty impressive. Especially given the circumstances.
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I wonder if this featured in the thought to hire him?
 
palace99 said:
his lack of European top flight experience is a concern, especially as he is no spring chicken at 47.

However, getting Lens to 2nd in France is very impressive, more so than the cup success IMHO.

He also got a tune out of Edouard, which is perhaps even more impressive.

Every managerial appointment is a risk - let's give him time and see how things are at Christmas. I'm expecting us to potentially have a slow start to the season - new manager, players returning late from the world cup, maybe one or two key players leaving etc.
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Not wishing to labour a point made by another, but e.g. Roy Hodgson?
 
Willo said:
I was in conversation with a long-time supporter who expressed a degree of concern apropos the appointment of Sage.
In his view it is a significant gamble, given that Sage's managerial experience is far from extensive and he has been lauded in the wake of a solitary successful season in a League somewhat less challenging than the PL.
He stated that when Glasner was appointed he had been a manager for some 10 years, he propelled Wolfsburg to 4th in the Bundesliga and steered Eintracht Frankfurt to European cup success.
This supporter had a preference for Sean Dyche whom he opined was a 'Safe pair of hands' with extensive PL experience and would have been a good 'Fit' at our club.
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Vincent Kompany seems to be doing ok. 2 Seasons with Burnley. One promotion and another relegation (with a very naive style of play). Bayern took a risk….
 
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