New manager poll

[Willo]

Hope I'm wrong, but Thomas Frank doesn't inspire me with confidence. Done well at Brentford playing rugby style football with fast strong forwards. We're blessed with them at the moment!!

Rubbish at Spurs.

If we we're going for a hoofball appointment who will tighten the defence, the Dyche is more likely to keep us up.

It just shows the boards intention is nothing other than achieving 17th.

We need to 'Right the ship' in short order.
Frank lost 8 of his first 10 games as Brentford manager.

 

[doombear]

We need to 'Right the ship' in short order.
Frank lost 8 of his first 10 games as Brentford manager.

But he didn't know the Prem then did he? He certainly does now.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

We need to 'Right the ship' in short order.
Frank lost 8 of his first 10 games as Brentford manager.

And always look on the bright side of life.

 

[Putitout]

Hope I'm wrong, but Thomas Frank doesn't inspire me with confidence. Done well at Brentford playing rugby style football with fast strong forwards. We're blessed with them at the moment!!

Rubbish at Spurs.

If we we're going for a hoofball appointment who will tighten the defence, the Dyche is more likely to keep us up.

It just shows the boards intention is nothing other than achieving 17th.

Tend to agree, his appointment doesn’t fill me with confidence. Having said that the available list is not inspiring so it has to be one of a number of doubtful choices. If he can make us hard to beat it might not be pretty but probably our only way out.

 

[samprior]

We need to 'Right the ship' in short order.
Frank lost 8 of his first 10 games as Brentford manager.

But we are a different club and will be playing against different teams.

His first 13 games in all competitions at Spurs were 6 wins, 4 draws, 3 losses. But again it's FRANKLY pointless comparing.

He just needs to concentrate on getting a minimum of 4 points in his next two league games with us and then build on that...if he joins us that is.

I've always found him a bit cringey but likewise when he was at Brentford I was a bit jealous of how solidly and stable he built them. At Spurs it was obviously a bit of a car crash- but many others have been too. I think what benefits us will be he's back at a 'small', 'underdog' type of club which will suit him and us well. He'll also be desperate to rebuild his reputation and if it does go well (fingers crossed), then he'd be less likely to jump ship quite so soon.

 

[Paul Salvage]

I think if it is Frank, there is an element of trying to build for the longer term. We are currently 6/4 to be relegated and the bookies don’t generally get it wrong. So my thinking is that if we stick with him even if we go down, we can look to rebuild and start again. This is perhaps how SP is thinking rather than going for the usual fire fighter appointments.
Hopefully we will all know soon enough.

 

[ASCPFC]

I think if it is Frank, there is an element of trying to build for the longer term. We are currently 6/4 to be relegated and the bookies don’t generally get it wrong. So my thinking is that if we stick with him even if we go down, we can look to rebuild and start again. This is perhaps how SP is thinking rather than going for the usual fire fighter appointments.
Hopefully we will all know soon enough.

He will probably either leave or be sacked if we get relegated. It's just the way it is. Depends on the initial negotiations I guess. However, his target is - avoid relegation wouldn't you think?

 

[TheBigToePunt]

My worry about Frank is whether he is much of a tactician, not so much in terms of picking or changing a system for or during a particular game, but whether he can coach players into a unit on the training ground. We need to be a coherent unit, ideally with the ball, but most certainly without it. That needs an understanding of tactical detail and the ability to impart it to players. I tend to think of Frank as more of a good man manager. Not sure why.

It doesn't matter if Frank is hands-off on the training field if he brings competent coaches with him and wants them to implement a sensible game plan. The web says he took these mix of assistants, coaches, and an analysist to Spurs with him. Perhaps they will come along?

Joined from Brentford:

• Justin Cochrane
• Chris Haslam
• Joe Newton

Joined from Manchester United:

• Andreas Georgson

 

[fish mitten]

I think if it is Frank, there is an element of trying to build for the longer term. We are currently 6/4 to be relegated and the bookies don’t generally get it wrong. So my thinking is that if we stick with him even if we go down, we can look to rebuild and start again. This is perhaps how SP is thinking rather than going for the usual fire fighter appointments.
Hopefully we will all know soon enough.

Possibly. Though I think him more as a manager to play attrition football to keep us up, no matter how dire it is. Not sure we have the pacey strong players that Brenford did.

 

[Paul Salvage]

He will probably either leave or be sacked if we get relegated. It's just the way it is. Depends on the initial negotiations I guess. However, his target is - avoid relegation wouldn't you think?

I could never understand why a manager that gets a team promoted into the Prem gets sacked when the team starts off badly and struggles to adapt to the new league. There is always a high chance that said team will get relegated regardless of who is the manager. Who would be better to be in charge to get them promoted again. The manager that has been there and done it before, or the replacement manager that may not have experienced a promotion campaign.

 

[Willo]

My worry about Frank is whether he is much of a tactician, not so much in terms of picking or changing a system for or during a particular game, but whether he can coach players into a unit on the training ground. We need to be a coherent unit, ideally with the ball, but most certainly without it. That needs an understanding of tactical detail and the ability to impart it to players. I tend to think of Frank as more of a good man manager. Not sure why.

It doesn't matter if Frank is hands-off on the training field if he brings competent coaches with him and wants them to implement a sensible game plan. The web says he took these mix of assistants, coaches, and an analysist to Spurs with him. Perhaps they will come along?

Joined from Brentford:

• Justin Cochrane
• Chris Haslam
• Joe Newton

Joined from Manchester United:

• Andreas Georgson

When Frank 'Took up the reins' at Brentford his assistant for about 4 years was Brian Riemer who is now manager of the Denmark National Team.
At Brentford he was succeeded by Claus Norgaard who was with Frank for about 3 years until Frank departed for Tottenham.Norgaard is now manager of Vejle who are currently 2nd in the 1st Division of the Danish League.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I could never understand why a manager that gets a team promoted into the Prem gets sacked when the team starts off badly and struggles to adapt to the new league. There is always a high chance that said team will get relegated regardless of who is the manager. Who would be better to be in charge to get them promoted again. The manager that has been there and done it before, or the replacement manager that may not have experienced a promotion campaign.

Football logic. The same as players who get relegated want to leave their club because they think they're too good to play in a lower division and expect top dollar for their efforts.

 

[taylors lovechild]

My worry about Frank is whether he is much of a tactician, not so much in terms of picking or changing a system for or during a particular game, but whether he can coach players into a unit on the training ground. We need to be a coherent unit, ideally with the ball, but most certainly without it. That needs an understanding of tactical detail and the ability to impart it to players. I tend to think of Frank as more of a good man manager. Not sure why.

It doesn't matter if Frank is hands-off on the training field if he brings competent coaches with him and wants them to implement a sensible game plan. The web says he took these mix of assistants, coaches, and an analysist to Spurs with him. Perhaps they will come along?

From what I've read, it sounds like the potential problem might be more like what we had at the beginning with Glasner, where his level of preparedness and tactical precision means it might take time to see results as the players learn what is required of them. Time we don't really have. Of course, the other option is we get someone who is a motivator who lifts team spirits, gets quick results, but then potentially falls away, similar to when we had Dowie.

This analysis of Frank is quite comprehensive and sounds, on paper, like what we have been missing, i.e. organisation, compactness and good set pieces Thomas Frank – Brentford – Tactical Analysis - The Football Analyst

 

[Teddy Eagle]

From what I've read, it sounds like the potential problem might be more like what we had at the beginning with Glasner, where his level of preparedness and tactical precision means it might take time to see results as the players learn what is required of them. Time we don't really have. Of course, the other option is we get someone who is a motivator who lifts team spirits, gets quick results, but then potentially falls away, similar to when we had Dowie.

This analysis of Frank is quite comprehensive and sounds, on paper, like what we have been missing, i.e. organisation, compactness and good set pieces Thomas Frank – Brentford – Tactical Analysis - The Football Analyst

Maybe a new manager should speak to the players to find out how they're most comfortable playing and then make incremental changes as required rather than expecting them to instantly adapt to a new style.

 

[Davepalace707]

From what I've read, it sounds like the potential problem might be more like what we had at the beginning with Glasner, where his level of preparedness and tactical precision means it might take time to see results as the players learn what is required of them. Time we don't really have. Of course, the other option is we get someone who is a motivator who lifts team spirits, gets quick results, but then potentially falls away, similar to when we had Dowie.

This analysis of Frank is quite comprehensive and sounds, on paper, like what we have been missing, i.e. organisation, compactness and good set pieces Thomas Frank – Brentford – Tactical Analysis - The Football Analyst

Favours 3 at the back and a high back line? Let’s hope not

 

[PatrickA]

Favours 3 at the back and a high back line? Let’s hope not

He's played both 5 at the back and 433 .
In that regard he's flexible.
I suspect with us he will start with 5 at the back as that is what the players are used to, although I'm sure the wing backs will be far more disciplined.
He is prepared to switch formation in games though.
At Brentford he had talented forwards in Toney, Mbueno and Behnrama who could all make things happens.
He tends to only use one ball playing midfielder with the others being more workhorses.

 

[Paul Salvage]

He's played both 5 at the back and 433 .
In that regard he's flexible.
I suspect with us he will start with 5 at the back as that is what the players are used to, although I'm sure the wing backs will be far more disciplined.
He is prepared to switch formation in games though.
At Brentford he had talented forwards in Toney, Mbueno and Behnrama who could all make things happens.
He tends to only use one ball playing midfielder with the others being more workhorses.

I think that can only help Wharton. Take away the work load and let him sit behind the front 3 feeding them and let the workhorses run around stopping the opposition.

 

[ASCPFC]

Favours 3 at the back and a high back line? Let’s hope not

I always thought he was relatively flexible. He changed too much at Spurs was how I saw it. Just my opinion.
We need solidity.

 

[JHB]

I understand some of the concerns about Frank’s ability to make an immediate impact but I don’t understand the concern about agricultural football. It seems connected to this perception that Sage had us playing good attacking football. He didn’t. We had one of the lowest possession percentages in the league and one of the lowest goals for totals. We just had loads of players high up the pitch but what they were mostly doing was watching the opposition run unopposed at our back three.

I would very happily take some basic football if it gets us enough points to stay up.

 

[Part Time James]

We need to 'Right the ship' in short order.
Frank lost 8 of his first 10 games as Brentford manager.

Perfect fit