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- Topic starter beak
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Where does such a huge figure come from? Do you know when we PAID countless billions to Caribbean countries? I can not find any record of this online or are you spinning a web?
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Midlands Eagle
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Much depends on what sort of illness one has. I suffer from a type of Non Hodgkins Lymphoma and the NHS have been terrific. During a visit with the consultant haematologist I told him that my leg had swollen up and I was due to fly and was worried about DVT. He arranged for a blood test test and scan all of which took place within an hour.
On the other hand I also suffer from a very painful pruritis and my GP told me that an appointment with a hospital dermatologist could take up to a year.
Where did I say we HAD paid billions? Read what the Caribbean Reparations Committee want and will fight for. The Palestine figure has been touted about , perhaps you are not looking in the right places!
You clearly state that we have stumped up meaning paid.
Nope I clearly said “ WHEN we stump up” meaning when
Good, neither will happen, don't scream until you are hit.
Apology accepted 😏. Not screaming just making sure you don’t misinterpret what I actually write
Let's get something clear here. Although pensioners don't pay National Insurance, they still pay income tax, so they are not on some sort of free-ride. Last month I paid £370 out of my pension on income tax, and for 40 years paid NI every month.
Runningman
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Paid NI for 39 years but had to buy another 7 years contribution to top up OAP as I paid in the wrong years.
My Mrs didn’t have to top up, paid far less than me annually in NI and still gets a larger OAP than me. Don’t tell me I have paid my whack !
Were you in the Civil Service? I worked for 44 years and still had to pay extra years to get full pension due to an anomaly. Serious question “ if you paid extra years why are you not getting full whack?”
PalazioVecchio
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you pay in what you pay in. I cannot understand how its 'the wrong years'. Were you alive & employed at the time ? then surely its the correct years ?
There was a period when folk could upt out of SERPS,I cannot explain the intricases, we need an expert , pensions has always been a minefield!
Runningman
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Pension Scheme changed in 2016. I retired early in 2014 but didn’t get to OAP age until 2023.
I'm also a pensioner and pay tax. I don't like it any more than you but if the NHS is to survive with an ageing population it is inevitable that we will all have to pay something. Across Europe most countries have an insurance scheme.
eaglesdare
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In case you missed it:
www.standard.co.uk
NHS faces backlash over guidance on first-cousin marriages
Tory MP Richard Holden said the NHS should ‘stop taking the knee to damaging and oppressive cultural practices’
www.standard.co.uk
Runningman
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It’ll soon be compulsory, don’t worry.In case you missed it:
NHS faces backlash over guidance on first-cousin marriages
Tory MP Richard Holden said the NHS should ‘stop taking the knee to damaging and oppressive cultural practices’
Going back to Beak's original comments I would like to summarise my view of the NHS as I appear to be getting some stick over it.
1. I support the NHS and do not want it privatised.
2. It needs to be reformed but we have been hearing this for 50 years. I seriously doubt that any government will be capable to reforming the NHS without extra money and I suspect the reforms will just be window dressing e.g. Online Heath service.
3. Money. Plenty of grumbles from people that they have already paid through tax or NI and it has been wasted. I agree, but the money has gone we can't get it back. The NHS will need more money so where is it coming from. The ever shrinking working / taxpaying group? Aren't they already taxed enough?
At some point a government will have to address the elephant in the room. The ever increasing portion of the population who don't contribute. It will not be palatable especially for pensioners but as we our the biggest users of the system I am afraid it makes sense.
I don't have specifics but I do believe that everyone should pay something annually. Now if you are a pensioner that already pays tax then I would argue that you are already covered. That then leaves those that don't. I would suggest a flat fee for non taxpayers.
We pay annual insurance for our house and car we don't tell the Insurance company I don't have to pay as I paid for 40 years.
The question really is which government will have the courage to do it.
1. I support the NHS and do not want it privatised.
2. It needs to be reformed but we have been hearing this for 50 years. I seriously doubt that any government will be capable to reforming the NHS without extra money and I suspect the reforms will just be window dressing e.g. Online Heath service.
3. Money. Plenty of grumbles from people that they have already paid through tax or NI and it has been wasted. I agree, but the money has gone we can't get it back. The NHS will need more money so where is it coming from. The ever shrinking working / taxpaying group? Aren't they already taxed enough?
At some point a government will have to address the elephant in the room. The ever increasing portion of the population who don't contribute. It will not be palatable especially for pensioners but as we our the biggest users of the system I am afraid it makes sense.
I don't have specifics but I do believe that everyone should pay something annually. Now if you are a pensioner that already pays tax then I would argue that you are already covered. That then leaves those that don't. I would suggest a flat fee for non taxpayers.
We pay annual insurance for our house and car we don't tell the Insurance company I don't have to pay as I paid for 40 years.
The question really is which government will have the courage to do it.