Manchester synagogue attack


How does one accidentally shoot and kill someone who had already killed, threatened to kill more and had what looked like bombs on him.

In those instances you shoot to kill.

I think you misunderstand the article…

One of the victims from yesterdays attack was killed by police (accidentally) and not by the terrorist.

This particular victim was hit unintentionally by a bullet fired by police because he was in the back drop of the arc of fire. (Potentially he was behind a door, trying to barricade it and prevent the terrorist from gaining entry to the synagogue. It appears a bullet fired towards the terrorist may have missed and passed through the door and penetrated the victim)
 
Posted by Matt Goodwin on X.

2025 Manchester synagogue terrorist
Syrian parents

2021 Liverpool terrorist
Born in Iraq

2021 Sir David Amess terrorist
Parents from Somalia

2020 Reading terrorist
Born in Libya

2020 Streatham terrorist
Parents from Sri Lanka

2019 Usman Khan terrorist
Parents from Pakistan

2017 Manchester MEN terrorist
Libyan parents

2015 Leytonstone terrorist
Born in Somalia

2013 Lee Rigby/Woolwich terrorist
Parents Nigerian

2007 London/Glasgow terrorists
Iraqi/Indian parents

2005 "homegrown" 7/7 terrorists
Shehzad Tanweer, parents from Pakistan
Mohammad Khan, parents from Pakistan
Hasib Hussain, parents from Pakistan
Germaine Lyndsay, born in Jamaica

What's my point?

We have set the stage for Islamist terror in the West ourselves --through mass immigration, porous borders and a total failure to integrate newcomers

To paraphrase Garrett Jones, from his book The Culture Transplant, migrants do not instantly adopt the host country's 'British' or 'English' culture and identity

Far from it

They retain central aspects of their origin countries --including religion, belief, attitudes toward violence, hatred of non-believers, and so on...
 
I think you misunderstand the article…

One of the victims from yesterdays attack was killed by police (accidentally) and not by the terrorist.

This particular victim was hit unintentionally by a bullet fired by police because he was in the back drop of the arc of fire. (Potentially he was behind a door, trying to barricade it and prevent the terrorist from gaining entry to the synagogue. It appears a bullet fired towards the terrorist may have missed and passed through the door and penetrated the victim)

You are correct. Thanks for clearing it up.
 
Posted by Matt Goodwin on X.

2025 Manchester synagogue terrorist
Syrian parents

2021 Liverpool terrorist
Born in Iraq

2021 Sir David Amess terrorist
Parents from Somalia

2020 Reading terrorist
Born in Libya

2020 Streatham terrorist
Parents from Sri Lanka

2019 Usman Khan terrorist
Parents from Pakistan

2017 Manchester MEN terrorist
Libyan parents

2015 Leytonstone terrorist
Born in Somalia

2013 Lee Rigby/Woolwich terrorist
Parents Nigerian

2007 London/Glasgow terrorists
Iraqi/Indian parents

2005 "homegrown" 7/7 terrorists
Shehzad Tanweer, parents from Pakistan
Mohammad Khan, parents from Pakistan
Hasib Hussain, parents from Pakistan
Germaine Lyndsay, born in Jamaica

What's my point?

We have set the stage for Islamist terror in the West ourselves --through mass immigration, porous borders and a total failure to integrate newcomers

To paraphrase Garrett Jones, from his book The Culture Transplant, migrants do not instantly adopt the host country's 'British' or 'English' culture and identity

Far from it

They retain central aspects of their origin countries --including religion, belief, attitudes toward violence, hatred of non-believers, and so on...
And homegrown Indians cheer for India at cricket matches by jingo!
 
Posted by Matt Goodwin on X.

2025 Manchester synagogue terrorist
Syrian parents

2021 Liverpool terrorist
Born in Iraq

2021 Sir David Amess terrorist
Parents from Somalia

2020 Reading terrorist
Born in Libya

2020 Streatham terrorist
Parents from Sri Lanka

2019 Usman Khan terrorist
Parents from Pakistan

2017 Manchester MEN terrorist
Libyan parents

2015 Leytonstone terrorist
Born in Somalia

2013 Lee Rigby/Woolwich terrorist
Parents Nigerian

2007 London/Glasgow terrorists
Iraqi/Indian parents

2005 "homegrown" 7/7 terrorists
Shehzad Tanweer, parents from Pakistan
Mohammad Khan, parents from Pakistan
Hasib Hussain, parents from Pakistan
Germaine Lyndsay, born in Jamaica

What's my point?

We have set the stage for Islamist terror in the West ourselves --through mass immigration, porous borders and a total failure to integrate newcomers

To paraphrase Garrett Jones, from his book The Culture Transplant, migrants do not instantly adopt the host country's 'British' or 'English' culture and identity

Far from it

They retain central aspects of their origin countries --including religion, belief, attitudes toward violence, hatred of non-believers, and so on...
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migrants do not instantly adopt the host country's 'British' or 'English' culture and identity

Far from it

They retain central aspects of their origin countries --including religion, belief, attitudes toward violence, hatred of non-believers, and so on...
yes, but when Brits move abroad, its the same problem. Living for decades in ( insert country name here) and never learning the language, the culture, the religion.

Did Nigel ever go and live in Lahore and go native ? highly unlikely, apart from a couple of rare cases.
 
yes, but when Brits move abroad, its the same problem. Living for decades in ( insert country name here) and never learning the language, the culture, the religion.

Did Nigel ever go and live in Lahore and go native ? highly unlikely, apart from a couple of rare cases.

Possibly the key difference here is that even tho the Brits don't learn the local language they don't go driving their cars into Spanish people or taking a knife out and attacking them after church.
 
Feeling the pressure is different to being killed. The reason for the rise in anti-Semitism is that those responsible feel empowered.
The last sentence is too hypothetical to mean anything.
I don’t think that’s in any way true, or logical. It’s unreasonable and illogical but those who blame Jews for genocide in Gaza, rather than the Netanyahu led government, then connect our Jewish citizens to it too.

As one of my grandparents was born Jewish it isn’t quite as hypothetical as you might think.
 
I don’t think that’s in any way true, or logical. It’s unreasonable and illogical but those who blame Jews for genocide in Gaza, rather than the Netanyahu led government, then connect our Jewish citizens to it too.

As one of my grandparents was born Jewish it isn’t quite as hypothetical as you might think.
How does that tie up with
I don’t think that’s correct.

The current spike in anti Semitism is entirely the consequence of the actions of the current Israeli government. Anti Semitism has always existed but not at the levels now being seen and there can only be one reason.

Still not seeing the connection. Two of my Grandparents were women but that didn't give me any idea how I'd react in a situation if I was a woman too.
 
yes, but when Brits move abroad, its the same problem. Living for decades in ( insert country name here) and never learning the language, the culture, the religion.

Did Nigel ever go and live in Lahore and go native ? highly unlikely, apart from a couple of rare cases.

Does Nigel have "attitudes toward violence, hatred of non-believers..." etc?
 
How does that tie up with
I don’t think that’s correct.

The current spike in anti Semitism is entirely the consequence of the actions of the current Israeli government. Anti Semitism has always existed but not at the levels now being seen and there can only be one reason.

Still not seeing the connection. Two of my Grandparents were women but that didn't give me any idea how I'd react in a situation if I was a woman too.
Are you suggesting this statement is wrong?

Obvious and trite would be appropriate words.
 

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