Louis Theroux “Inside the Manosphere”

[Stirlingsays]

Being a real man is about owning yourself, knowing yourself and protecting those who are threatened by others.

Not this weak version you portray of victimhood and blaming others for your own shortcomings to make you feel superior.

Dan, 'man whisperer'.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Except it's not a countermeasures piece and that proves you didn't read it, or at least understand it and the context of it.

Who said it was a “countermeasures piece”?

What I said was it was an irrelevant reaction. Which compared to its male equivalent it is. I doubt it would have existed at all without the male version emerging. If you really want to deflect from the issue you can add the two together.

 

[Spindle]

I suppose as an inevitable reaction but it is surely small scale and irrelevant. These macho influencers have gained a lot of support and are a toxic and unwelcome development which needs exposure and counter measures.

Oh

 

[ASCPFC]

It wasn't really necessary to watch the programme to know what the conclusions would be. Although I did. I found it pretty humourous. I couldn't really give a f*** what they all do online.
How is their influence any worse than the influence we've had from Hollywood and TV for fifty years? There are less of these on the Epstein lists than there are our world leaders. Who's worse in reality?
This is merely preaching to the converted, not journalism. No one's going to change. The faux outrage will be heard forever - it's on here. It's their new version of Adolescence - which was also half truths.
I wonder why young men might be disillusioned? Let's have an actual think about it for once. Just once.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

It wasn't really necessary to watch the programme to know what the conclusions would be. Although I did. I found it pretty humourous. I couldn't really give a f*** what they all do online.
How is their influence any worse than the influence we've had from Hollywood and TV for fifty years? There are less of these on the Epstein lists than there are our world leaders. Who's worse in reality?
This is merely preaching to the converted, not journalism. No one's going to change. The faux outrage will be heard forever - it's on here. It's their new version of Adolescence - which was also half truths.
I wonder why young men might be disillusioned? Let's have an actual think about it for once. Just once.

Exactly. Being a young bloke in the current climate can't be easy.
I'm not interested in what Tate has to say but it's just the latest media scare - rap records, video nasties, Rock 'n' Roll, comic books, etc. There's always something for people to get their knickers in a twist over.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

It wasn't really necessary to watch the programme to know what the conclusions would be. Although I did. I found it pretty humourous. I couldn't really give a f*** what they all do online.
How is their influence any worse than the influence we've had from Hollywood and TV for fifty years? There are less of these on the Epstein lists than there are our world leaders. Who's worse in reality?
This is merely preaching to the converted, not journalism. No one's going to change. The faux outrage will be heard forever - it's on here. It's their new version of Adolescence - which was also half truths.
I wonder why young men might be disillusioned? Let's have an actual think about it for once. Just once.

Even making the comparison indicates to me how badly you are misunderstanding this.

It’s far removed from just a current manifestation of adolescence. Something that happens to everyone. Recognising that many young men feel disillusioned and lost is no reason to excuse this. Let alone fail to deal with it. Dealing with it must include providing something better and that has to flow from their education. They need to learn to appreciate self worth and the value of others. Then be provided with hope. Not easy, but must be done.

Young men finding inspiration from irresponsible, self centred misogynists in the numbers they are is not something we ought to tolerate.

Dismissing this as just an overreaction? Read this:-

Teachers union warns of 'masculinity crisis' brewing in schools

NASUWT's leader said there is a "ticking time bomb" if male pupils cannot be helped with misogyny.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Spindle]

I see you ignored my post which quoted you.

Where's my apology?

 

[ASCPFC]

Even making the comparison indicates to me how badly you are misunderstanding this.

It’s far removed from just a current manifestation of adolescence. Something that happens to everyone. Recognising that many young men feel disillusioned and lost is no reason to excuse this. Let alone fail to deal with it. Dealing with it must include providing something better and that has to flow from their education. They need to learn to appreciate self worth and the value of others. Then be provided with hope. Not easy, but must be done.

Young men finding inspiration from irresponsible, self centred misogynists in the numbers they are is not something we ought to tolerate.

Dismissing this as just an overreaction? Read this:-

Teachers union warns of 'masculinity crisis' brewing in schools

NASUWT's leader said there is a "ticking time bomb" if male pupils cannot be helped with misogyny.

www.bbc.co.uk

There is literally zero evidence of any of the behaviour of boys being linked to a couple of influencers. There could be multiple factors for boys' behaviour but all this is, is jumping on the bandwagon after Adolescence. Which also was full of half truths. All of this ignores the culture that boys come from now, as it so obviously would. Another shock jock documentary with half a story. The story they wanted before they even started. Simply to be popular. For views - just like the people they vilified yet too blind to notice.

 

[Spindle]

I bet Wisbech stood up from his armchair and clapped when the credits rolled

 

[Stirlingsays]

It wasn't really necessary to watch the programme to know what the conclusions would be. Although I did. I found it pretty humourous. I couldn't really give a f*** what they all do online.
How is their influence any worse than the influence we've had from Hollywood and TV for fifty years? There are less of these on the Epstein lists than there are our world leaders. Who's worse in reality?
This is merely preaching to the converted, not journalism. No one's going to change. The faux outrage will be heard forever - it's on here. It's their new version of Adolescence - which was also half truths.
I wonder why young men might be disillusioned? Let's have an actual think about it for once. Just once.

Cogent post.