Louis Theroux “Inside the Manosphere”

It’s a great deal worse than that.

These guys are not simply demonstrating the positive aspects of manliness. They are all about selfishness, misogyny, cruelty and hatred. They are just bad people. That would be true whether male, female or confused.

That cannot be defended. It must be called out.

I’m not sure these guys really were. Or didn’t believe in what they were saying anyway - just making money off the thick idiots who do believe it. Or need someone else to blame for their misery anyway.
 
So what reaction would be appropriate?
A demonstration of kindness with strength. Criticism of the weaknesses of extreme feminism doesn’t require you to go even further. You calmly show tolerance and leadership. You build partnerships with good people, whatever their sex or sexual orientation. If rejected you don’t lash out. You rise above it, turn the other cheek and walk away.

Then you gain respect. As a person.
 
A demonstration of kindness with strength. Criticism of the weaknesses of extreme feminism doesn’t require you to go even further. You calmly show tolerance and leadership. You build partnerships with good people, whatever their sex or sexual orientation. If rejected you don’t lash out. You rise above it, turn the other cheek and walk away.

Then you gain respect. As a person.
As well as demolishing the patriarchy.
 
I’m not sure these guys really were. Or didn’t believe in what they were saying anyway - just making money off the thick idiots who do believe it. Or need someone else to blame for their misery anyway.
I agree with this.

My own opinion of the Manosphere and the media is it's catnip and over blown.

There have always been nasty people and con man. Back in the seventies it was all about religious cults with the leader taking his pick of the women and money. Today social media influencers tell us they have this marvellous glamorous rich life in Dubai pay no taxes etc. People like Tate are on the extreme fringe of that BS with their misogamy.

People who have little hope look at these social media influencers rather like the lottery, it could be them. After all who wants to hear about people who work hard get educated and spend years building a career, when you can listen to a Dubai multi millionaire claiming benefits from the UK (why would you need to) and not paying tax.

I said catnip because the media goes after the toxic masculinity men (no sympathy), and ignore the toxic women, who are just as bad, presenting a shallow and unrealistic lifestyle to young girls. They often brag about finding rich good looking men and don't settle for less.

A plague on both their houses.
 
The modern culture treats boys like defective girls and it disgusts me.

They know they are doing it and they don't care because there are no negative consequences for them. Until there is the culture won't change.

It's heartening that these lads are calling it out.

Yep, Tate comes with problems, especially how he made his money. He's has accurate criticisms of the culture and the ruling ideology that it belongs to which is why they hate him so much. But try as they might to change it, young males are willing to give him a hearing because he's one of the few voices out there willing to speak about masculinity in a positive light.

Perhaps if what the social liberals were offering young boys and men weren't so crap then they would move on from Tate, but as usual all they offer is a double down.

It's also women who are going to suffer from the emasculation of young men.

Women want men to be men and vice versa.

Now I'm certainly no alpha; but what the male feminists/liberals don't understand, is they make women feel like the Sahara desert. Lol
 
I've only watched the excellent Daniel Bolands reviews of the manosphere.

The most annoying part of it for me,was the guy sneeko's pathetic attempt to explain why the world is run by Satanists.

A very important subject that was left to be explained by an idiot. However they probably would a clipped anything decent he had to say.
 
It's also women who are going to suffer from the emasculation of young men.

Women want men to be men and vice versa.

Now I'm certainly no alpha; but what the male feminists/liberals don't understand, is they make women feel like the Sahara desert. Lol
On whose authority do you speak for women?

In my experience all a woman expects of anyone is that they treat her with respect. Which is no different to most men.
 
On whose authority do you speak for women?

In my experience all a woman expects of anyone is that they treat her with respect. Which is no different to most men.
It was a light hearted comment. I wouldn't look too deeply into it.

But I would add that the authority came from the women who rejected me when I was soy. Lol.

Joking again Mr Wisbech sir.
 
The female equivalent is out there.


This is basically an attack on tradition hence it's in the guardian. It doesn't focus on the shitness of 3rd wave feminism but rather those rejecting it by aggressive tradwifing for the cash. There's nothing on the ritual misandry blasted out by female pop queens to millions of young women and teenage girls, just saying that women looking for a man to support them is toxic.

They are feminist tossers
 
I suppose as an inevitable reaction but it is surely small scale and irrelevant. These macho influencers have gained a lot of support and are a toxic and unwelcome development which needs exposure and counter measures.

Except it's not a countermeasures piece and that proves you didn't read it, or at least understand it and the context of it.
 
Being a real man is about owning yourself, knowing yourself and protecting those who are threatened by others.

Not this weak version you portray of victimhood and blaming others for your own shortcomings to make you feel superior.

The sort of thing Tate would say
 

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