Letby – more information coming to light

[georgenorman]

He is as guilty as hell. A good indication of this is that Steeleye thinks he is innocent.

 

[totoshkin]

It would be interesting to go over the Bamber and Letby case in the light of new investigation techniques.
Bamber would be a cold case, but I gather all his Rights of Appeal have been exhausted.
Letby is more that experts have different views, which happens all the time. Why these new experts never made it to the first trial is slightly perplexing. And it takes a particular kind of expert to state absolutely there can be no dispute in the evidence and that someone is 100% guilty of murder.
Because , as a scientist/professional, you always know there's room for doubt. It's just whether that doubt is reasonable , or can be dismissed.

Reason they never made it to the first case is that the legal team, for some reason known to the, chose not to call them. That is their decision but given the nature of the technical evidence against her I would have demanded that be tested.

 

[eritheagle]

There was an excellent TV dramatisation of the murders and the enquiry- I remember some of the investigating officers were made to look pretty poor.
Then again it was a long time ago and the forensic tools available now are in a different league.

Wasn’t it starring Stephan Graham and Mark Addy as coppers?

 

[kevlee]

Wasn’t it starring Stephan Graham and Mark Addy as coppers?

Correct- White House farm. Very good series.

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

I have to say, with this turn of events (link below), it wouldn't surprise me if Letby's team went straight for the 'unsafe conviction' route to get her released.
This on the face of it, is quite shocking, that it's even considered possible that institutional failures were covered by bullying a staff member into a position of potential guilt.
But the similarities with the Post Office scandal are there to see.

Lucy Letby: Manslaughter probe at Countess of Chester Hospital widened

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A police investigation at the hospital where nurse Lucy Letby murdered seven babies and attempted to kill seven others has been expanded to consider whether there was evidence of gross negligence manslaughter.
Cheshire Police said it opened a corporate manslaughter investigation at the Countess of Chester Hospital in October 2023.
Det Supt Paul Hughes said: "As our enquiries have continued, the scope of the investigation has now widened to also include gross negligence manslaughter."
An undisclosed number of suspects have been notified by the force, he added, before stressing that "no arrests or charges have yet been made".
The senior investigating officer said: "This is a separate offence to corporate manslaughter and focuses on the grossly negligent action or inaction of individuals.

"It is important to note that this does not impact on the convictions of Lucy Letby for multiple offences of murder and attempted murder." " , (BBC Website 14.3.25)

 

[Spiderman]

Another interesting twist, surely now an unsafe conviction defence will take place

Lucy Letby could be freed after email casts doubt on court claim

SPECIAL REPORT: The memo, revealed yesterday, is a significant boost to the nurse's legal fight to overturn her convictions.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[cryrst]

Another interesting twist, surely now an unsafe conviction defence will take place

Lucy Letby could be freed after email casts doubt on court claim

SPECIAL REPORT: The memo, revealed yesterday, is a significant boost to the nurse's legal fight to overturn her convictions.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Letby was a scapegoat for a s*** hospital, and the fact labour are tearing down the NHS might actually answer a lot of questions. Too much arse covering for bad performance.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

Another interesting twist, surely now an unsafe conviction defence will take place

Lucy Letby could be freed after email casts doubt on court claim

SPECIAL REPORT: The memo, revealed yesterday, is a significant boost to the nurse's legal fight to overturn her convictions.

www.dailymail.co.uk

100% Gulity. Nothing new in any of this and it is just remarkable that people are taken in by it.

Only a few weeks ago the families of Letby’s victims moved to counter this nonsense and issued a full rebuke via their solicitors. I have posted the Daily Mail link below as The Telegraph and The Times articles reporting the same thing are both behind paywalls or subscriptions.

Families of babies murdered by Lucy Letby rally to debunk claims

The families of babies murdered by Lucy Letby have rallied to debunk claims that the child killer is innocent and accused her of trying to 'defect attention' from the heinous crimes.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[cryrst]

100% Gulity. Nothing new in any of this and it is just remarkable that people are taken in by it.

Only a few weeks ago the families of Letby’s victims moved to counter this nonsense and issued a full rebuke via their solicitors. I have posted the Daily Mail link below as The Telegraph and The Times articles reporting the same thing are both behind paywalls or subscriptions.

Families of babies murdered by Lucy Letby rally to debunk claims

The families of babies murdered by Lucy Letby have rallied to debunk claims that the child killer is innocent and accused her of trying to 'defect attention' from the heinous crimes.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Guilt or innocence isn’t at question. If it’s unsafe is the question in this article. The law as we are told by some on here doesnt make mistakes. Well it may have !!!

 

[Phil’s Barber]

Guilt or innocence isn’t at question. If it’s unsafe is the question in this article. The law as we are told by some on here doesnt make mistakes. Well it may have !!!

It’s the usual rubbish that follows high profile trials. There is ALWAYS someone willing to run a counter argument that they ‘got it wrong’ and the conviction is unsafe. It’s not, this is nothing new and they’ve not presented anything that changes the guilty verdicts on all counts. I take it you read the statement from the families solicitors issued in response to this?

 

[kevlee]

Try her again and the verdict will be the same. 12 ordinary people knew what the right verdict was and 12 more will do the same.

The trial took a year. So have another year long trial for the same result? Pointless.

 

[Badger11]

Letby was a scapegoat for a s*** hospital, and the fact labour are tearing down the NHS might actually answer a lot of questions. Too much arse covering for bad performance.

Or Letby took advantage of the poor performance