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So could I if I could get my big toe in the ring pull
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n wales eagles
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Surely roy has to be up there and established us as a premium side Never mind 48 mil for one player we had wilf and some whole hearted journey men who's gross value bar wilf would not have reached 48 thanks roy
n wales eagles
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Surely roy has to be up there and established us as a premium side Never mind 48 mil for one player we had wilf and some whole hearted journey men who's gross value bar wilf would not have reached 48 thanks roy
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Coppell is by far our greatest manager, its not even close, and never will be as circumstances will (hopefully) never require so much of one man ever again.
The extent of improvement under Coppell is incomparable to anything anyone else has or is ever likely to bring about. We went from the bottom end of the second tier and in the absolute doldrums to third in the top flight, an FA cup final, the Zenith Cup win, were robbed of a place in Europe, and had our longest stay in the top flight until now. The distance travelled was incredible.
The resources Coppell had to work with were so limited as to beggar belief, not only in the modern context, but even at the time. Noades once said that Palace had to sell a player a month when he first turned up, just to stay afloat. It is sometimes said that Coppell built our best ever team from nothing. In fact, he built it from less than nothing.
The highest high was achieved under Coppell. We will never, ever be third in the league again. It just will not happen.
Mostly though, his greatest achievement is found in the range of circumstances he dealt with during his three spells as manager (not including one as director of football). He built a team over time from nothing all the way to the top. A life's work for most people. Next time, he took over as manager after Bassett walked out, having been working at the club as a scout (which he did not consider beneath him). Over the course of one season, Coppell organised and galvanised the team and got Palace promoted. Again.
He then did his best to keep the club respectable and professional as it degenerated into a circus all around him during the Goldberg days. Didn't flounce off. Didn't moan to the press to protect his own reputation. Just went to work every day.
Then he returned when, once gain, Palace were going to the wall. He kept us in the Championship with a team of knackered veterans, academy kids, loans, and all sorts. Having built it all up from nothing once before, few would have had the minerals to do it all again. His reward? Jordan binned him. Did he bleat about it to the press? No, just carried on with his career. In fact, he has had real ups and downs in his life, including his own wellbeing, but you never find him on the circuit moaning about how the football world didn't meet its duty of care to him and all that. He kept his life private, and if he ever blamed anyone else but himself for not becoming a champions league or England manager, he never said.
To return to the OP, I totally disagree with most of his criticisms of Glasner as a coach. There is as much to be said for a settled side as for rotation. As much to be said for a consistent message as for tactical flexibility. As much to be said for sticking with the XI you have spent the week organising and preparing as for making changes in a game. The conservative, structured system that restricts you from game to game may well get you more points overall than taking the handbrake off. There is no right way to organise a team, and Glasners way had a very big part to play in the Cup win.
My criticisms of Glasner are all to do with his conduct, coming to a head after Sunderland. He is not a patch on Coppell in that respect. Even if we win the Conference League he will remain miles behind Coppell.
The extent of improvement under Coppell is incomparable to anything anyone else has or is ever likely to bring about. We went from the bottom end of the second tier and in the absolute doldrums to third in the top flight, an FA cup final, the Zenith Cup win, were robbed of a place in Europe, and had our longest stay in the top flight until now. The distance travelled was incredible.
The resources Coppell had to work with were so limited as to beggar belief, not only in the modern context, but even at the time. Noades once said that Palace had to sell a player a month when he first turned up, just to stay afloat. It is sometimes said that Coppell built our best ever team from nothing. In fact, he built it from less than nothing.
The highest high was achieved under Coppell. We will never, ever be third in the league again. It just will not happen.
Mostly though, his greatest achievement is found in the range of circumstances he dealt with during his three spells as manager (not including one as director of football). He built a team over time from nothing all the way to the top. A life's work for most people. Next time, he took over as manager after Bassett walked out, having been working at the club as a scout (which he did not consider beneath him). Over the course of one season, Coppell organised and galvanised the team and got Palace promoted. Again.
He then did his best to keep the club respectable and professional as it degenerated into a circus all around him during the Goldberg days. Didn't flounce off. Didn't moan to the press to protect his own reputation. Just went to work every day.
Then he returned when, once gain, Palace were going to the wall. He kept us in the Championship with a team of knackered veterans, academy kids, loans, and all sorts. Having built it all up from nothing once before, few would have had the minerals to do it all again. His reward? Jordan binned him. Did he bleat about it to the press? No, just carried on with his career. In fact, he has had real ups and downs in his life, including his own wellbeing, but you never find him on the circuit moaning about how the football world didn't meet its duty of care to him and all that. He kept his life private, and if he ever blamed anyone else but himself for not becoming a champions league or England manager, he never said.
To return to the OP, I totally disagree with most of his criticisms of Glasner as a coach. There is as much to be said for a settled side as for rotation. As much to be said for a consistent message as for tactical flexibility. As much to be said for sticking with the XI you have spent the week organising and preparing as for making changes in a game. The conservative, structured system that restricts you from game to game may well get you more points overall than taking the handbrake off. There is no right way to organise a team, and Glasners way had a very big part to play in the Cup win.
My criticisms of Glasner are all to do with his conduct, coming to a head after Sunderland. He is not a patch on Coppell in that respect. Even if we win the Conference League he will remain miles behind Coppell.
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NEILLO
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Actually, yes I think you're right - it was only you ! 🤣
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If Palace were to win the Conference League, then it would be a tie in terms of number of trophies won under Glasner versus number of 'Glasner Out' threads started by Lanzo. 😆
Now come on, no need for that, opinions. 😊