Left-bias in Cinema, TV , and other media

[PalazioVecchio]

Give us some examples.

1. Oppenheimer. All the intellectuals are Marxists. The McCarthy era fanatics are all baddies.


2. Kingdom of Heaven. All the Christian priests are nasty - at least 3 of them. Half the Crusaders are nasty criminal types. The nice crusaders seem to be atheists. All the Jihadists are noble and honourable. Strong independent women riding around on horses, and riding men other than their husband, with wanton abandon.

3. War of the Worlds. Tom Cruise is a separated single dad. Like Brad Pitt in Moneyball and almost every man in cinema these days. Talking politely to the new bloke his bird has shacked up with.

4. The Irishman......Hoffa is a Trade Unionist and now a hero too.

5. Barbarians.......Herman/Arminius is fighting to free the Germans from the Roman yoke. Not only does he fancy fellas but he now represents a whole cohort of heroic historic figures who are now suddenly getting a rainbow-rewrite of the history-books.

6. Terminator.......Arnold Schwarzenneger helps his wife with the groceries. All the 3 strong heroic figures are female & independent.

7. Alien ..... the more recent the movie, the further to the Left it is.

8. Blade Runner.........Climate change, the baddies are always straight white men, like Wallace.

9. Conclave .........a Vatican with a new 'Trans' Pope

10. Mary Queen of Scots / Vikings Valhalla........... about as credible as Liverpool ever having a chance against us.

11. Rome, HBO....Julius Caesar (Ciaran Hinds)..is certainly a nasty piece of work. Hence the fact the real bloke was probably Bi ? Well it seems to have been airbrushed out of the historical record ?

12. House of Guinness.......the Fenian movement seems to be led by a clever, single, childless, fit young bird, who sleeps with the Protestant enemy (to the knowledge of her landlady and hence the whole community). Meanwhile her brother is an uncouth gorilla who mostly does as he's told - except for when being nasty. Abortion all ok in 1865. The likable Arthur Guinness has become firmly gay (and a cuckold), unlike much evidence for the original brewer being either. Christian preachers.....all nasty.

13. Peaky Blinders.....the Far right are evil monsters. The Far left are likable fools & dreamers.

14. History Channels etc. ....constant documentaries about Hitler & the Nazi's. Only a tiny percentage of docu's about Stalin and the Soviet Union.

what others ?

Arthur Guinness, 1st Baron Ardilaun - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Badger11]

Give us some examples.

1. Oppenheimer. All the intellectuals are Marxists. The McCarthy era fanatics are all baddies.


2. Kingdom of Heaven. All the priests are nasty. Half the Crusaders are nasty criminal types. All the Jihadists are noble and honourable. Strong independent women riding around on horses, and riding men other than their husband, with wanton abandon.

3. War of the Worlds. Tom Cruise is a separated single dad. Like Brad Pitt in Moneyball and almost every man in cinema these days. Talking politely to the new bloke his bird has shacked up with.

4. The Irishman......Hoffa is a Trade Unionist and now a hero too.

5. Barbarians.......Herman/Arminius is fighting to free the Germans from the Roman yoke. Not only does he fancy fellas but he now represents a whole cohort of historic figures who are now suddenly getting a rainbow-rewrite of the history-books.

6. Terminator.......Arnold Schwarzenneger helps his wife with the groceries. All the 3 strong heroic figures are female.

7. Alien ..... the more recent the movie, the further to the Left it is.

8. Blade Runner.........Climate change, the baddies are always straight white men.

9. Conclave .........a Vatican with a new 'Trans' Pope

10. Mary Queen of Scots / Vikings Valhalla........... about as credible as Liverpool ever having a chance against us.

what others ?

Any Mel Gibson film, blame the English.

Braveheart - William Wallace is shown as a peasant, in reality he was a Scottish Lord who had travelled through Europe and spoke French. As for the English oppressors, this was the time of the border wars, both Scots and English invaded each others countries and committed atrocities. There were no black hats versus white hats, all grey.

In fact pretty much any historic movie or show that involves the English these days is negative about or culture and history.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Give us some examples.

1. Oppenheimer. All the intellectuals are Marxists. The McCarthy era fanatics are all baddies.


2. Kingdom of Heaven. All the priests are nasty. Half the Crusaders are nasty criminal types. All the Jihadists are noble and honourable. Strong independent women riding around on horses, and riding men other than their husband, with wanton abandon.

3. War of the Worlds. Tom Cruise is a separated single dad. Like Brad Pitt in Moneyball and almost every man in cinema these days. Talking politely to the new bloke his bird has shacked up with.

4. The Irishman......Hoffa is a Trade Unionist and now a hero too.

5. Barbarians.......Herman/Arminius is fighting to free the Germans from the Roman yoke. Not only does he fancy fellas but he now represents a whole cohort of historic figures who are now suddenly getting a rainbow-rewrite of the history-books.

6. Terminator.......Arnold Schwarzenneger helps his wife with the groceries. All the 3 strong heroic figures are female.

7. Alien ..... the more recent the movie, the further to the Left it is.

8. Blade Runner.........Climate change, the baddies are always straight white men.

9. Conclave .........a Vatican with a new 'Trans' Pope

10. Mary Queen of Scots / Vikings Valhalla........... about as credible as Liverpool ever having a chance against us.

11. Rome, HBO....Julius Caesar (Ciaran Hinds)..is certainly a nasty piece of work. Hence the fact the real bloke was probably Bi ? Well it seems to have been airbrushed out of the historical record ?

what others ?

Putting aside any consideration of whether your assertions are valid, and just accepting they are, have you thought why this might be?

Entertainment responds to demand. It’s a commercial business. Funding isn’t there for failure.

So this must be what people want to see. Why might that be? Perhaps because these days there is a greater awareness, and acceptance, of diversity and the changed role of both women and men in society.

That there are outposts of resistance to change, or whole societies out of touch with the modern world, is obvious and inevitable. Progression takes time and there will always be some drag. You are just part of the drag. In its real sense!

 

[PalazioVecchio]

Any Mel Gibson film, blame the English.

In fact pretty much any historic movie or show that involves the English these days is negative.

One of the James Bond movies had a Korean baddie who had a ton of cosmetic surgery and morphed into a baddie Englishman. All Hollywood baddies seem to develop an English accent. Even Robert Carlyle as Hitler or Joaquin Phoenix as Commodus.
Even the nasty 'synthetics' in Alien.....predominantly English. The goody synthetic of Michael Fassbender ? all american, his nasty twin ? spoke like John Gielgud.
English accent.....Hannibal Lector the East European emigre.

 

[Apollofuzz]

One of the James Bond movies had a Korean baddie who had a ton of cosmetic surgery and morphed into a baddie Englishman. All Hollywood baddies seem to develop an English accent. Even Robert Carlyle as Hitler or Joaquin Phoenix as Commodus.
Even the nasty 'synthetics' in Alien.....predominantly English. The goody synthetic of Michael Fassbender ? all american, his nasty twin ? spoke like John Gielgud.
English accent.....Hannibal Lector the East European emigre.

Not always English what about The Russian Submarine commander with a Scottish accent.

 

[mezzer]

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
Straight white woman grooming the disabled. Or is it the other way round?
Never have worked it out.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
Straight white woman grooming the disabled. Or is it the other way round?
Never have worked it out.

And they were all union scabs.

 

[silvertop]

Not sure what this has to do with socialism, but there has always been a correlation between creative and the left and thus progressive.

However for every progressive output you can probably place by way of counterbalance some mindless xenophobic jingoistic action flic.

Also Hollywood follows the zeitgeist to follow the money. Nothing's new.

 

[georgenorman]

Not sure what this has to do with socialism, but there has always been a correlation between creative and the left and thus progressive.

However for every progressive output you can probably place by way of counterbalance some mindless xenophobic jingoistic action flic.

Also Hollywood follows the zeitgeist to follow the money. Nothing's new.

'Progressive' - progressing towards what?

 

[hackney-viking-eagle]

What I don't understand is how all the stories and myths we we tell ourselves champion the small guy, the rebel, the revolutionary. e.g Star Wars, Avatar, Bugs Life, The Bible etc.... There's a consensus across the board that this is right vs wrong, good vs bad. These all contain inherently left wing messaging - fighting against injustice and totalitarianism. Nobody argues that Darth Vader is a neccesary authorotarian, that the rebels deserve to be crushed and Luke is a woke little t*** (well maybe they do, and he kind of is if we're honest.... ). Maga would blatantly vote for Hans Solo in this universe.

But back in this universe, when it actually comes to voting, people gladly line up behind the Evil Empire, seemingly oblivious to the contradiction.

 

[NMPalace]

Give us some examples.

1. Oppenheimer. All the intellectuals are Marxists. The McCarthy era fanatics are all baddies.


2. Kingdom of Heaven. All the priests are nasty. Half the Crusaders are nasty criminal types. The nice crusaders seem to be atheists. All the Jihadists are noble and honourable. Strong independent women riding around on horses, and riding men other than their husband, with wanton abandon.

3. War of the Worlds. Tom Cruise is a separated single dad. Like Brad Pitt in Moneyball and almost every man in cinema these days. Talking politely to the new bloke his bird has shacked up with.

4. The Irishman......Hoffa is a Trade Unionist and now a hero too.

5. Barbarians.......Herman/Arminius is fighting to free the Germans from the Roman yoke. Not only does he fancy fellas but he now represents a whole cohort of heroic historic figures who are now suddenly getting a rainbow-rewrite of the history-books.

6. Terminator.......Arnold Schwarzenneger helps his wife with the groceries. All the 3 strong heroic figures are female & independent.

7. Alien ..... the more recent the movie, the further to the Left it is.

8. Blade Runner.........Climate change, the baddies are always straight white men, like Wallace.

9. Conclave .........a Vatican with a new 'Trans' Pope

10. Mary Queen of Scots / Vikings Valhalla........... about as credible as Liverpool ever having a chance against us.

11. Rome, HBO....Julius Caesar (Ciaran Hinds)..is certainly a nasty piece of work. Hence the fact the real bloke was probably Bi ? Well it seems to have been airbrushed out of the historical record ?

12. House of Guinness.......the Fenian movement seems to be led by a clever, single, childless, fit young bird, who sleeps with the Protestant enemy (to the knowledge of her landlady and hence the whole community). Meanwhile her brother is an uncouth gorilla who mostly does as he's told - except for when being nasty. Abortion all ok in 1865. The likable Arthur Guinness has become firmly gay (and a cuckold), unlike much evidence for the original brewer being either. Christian preachers.....all nasty.

13. Peaky Blinders.....the Far right are evil monsters. The Far left are likable fools & dreamers.

14. History Channels etc. ....constant documentaries about Hitler & the Nazi's. Only a tiny percentage of docu's about Stalin and the Soviet Union.

what others ?

Arthur Guinness, 1st Baron Ardilaun - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

you need to take a chill pill mate.

It's called entertainment and artistic licence. Why do Hollywood make the baddies 99% of the time English (Die Hard, Silence of the Lambs etc)?

It is what it is.

 

[hackney-viking-eagle]

you need to take a chill pill mate.

It's called entertainment and artistic licence. Why do Hollywood make the baddies 99% of the time English (Die Hard, Silence of the Lambs etc)?

It is what it is.

Yeah I'm pretty sure the 'English as the baddy' thing is rooted in the fact that Hollywood is American and the English are their historical evil empire overloards

 

[beak]

Sound of Music a woman fighting off those mythical Nazi folk, of course let us deny right wing evil, at regulo seven! All a bit of a gas really.

 

[silvertop]

'Progressive' - progressing towards what?

Just a term of art George.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

We all know the arts are full of lefties. Drama has left wing bias all the time.

Whereas once, people might have been indoctrinated by this kind of pervasive brainwashing, more and more now see through it because it does not chime with what they see in the real world.
It now makes them feel angry because their attitudes are being vilified by a small group of liberals who live in a bubble of their own self importance and have a platform to spread their delusions.

 

[Nutmegyeti]

Give us some examples.

1. Oppenheimer. All the intellectuals are Marxists. The McCarthy era fanatics are all baddies.


2. Kingdom of Heaven. All the priests are nasty. Half the Crusaders are nasty criminal types. The nice crusaders seem to be atheists. All the Jihadists are noble and honourable. Strong independent women riding around on horses, and riding men other than their husband, with wanton abandon.

3. War of the Worlds. Tom Cruise is a separated single dad. Like Brad Pitt in Moneyball and almost every man in cinema these days. Talking politely to the new bloke his bird has shacked up with.

4. The Irishman......Hoffa is a Trade Unionist and now a hero too.

5. Barbarians.......Herman/Arminius is fighting to free the Germans from the Roman yoke. Not only does he fancy fellas but he now represents a whole cohort of heroic historic figures who are now suddenly getting a rainbow-rewrite of the history-books.

6. Terminator.......Arnold Schwarzenneger helps his wife with the groceries. All the 3 strong heroic figures are female & independent.

7. Alien ..... the more recent the movie, the further to the Left it is.

8. Blade Runner.........Climate change, the baddies are always straight white men, like Wallace.

9. Conclave .........a Vatican with a new 'Trans' Pope

10. Mary Queen of Scots / Vikings Valhalla........... about as credible as Liverpool ever having a chance against us.

11. Rome, HBO....Julius Caesar (Ciaran Hinds)..is certainly a nasty piece of work. Hence the fact the real bloke was probably Bi ? Well it seems to have been airbrushed out of the historical record ?

12. House of Guinness.......the Fenian movement seems to be led by a clever, single, childless, fit young bird, who sleeps with the Protestant enemy (to the knowledge of her landlady and hence the whole community). Meanwhile her brother is an uncouth gorilla who mostly does as he's told - except for when being nasty. Abortion all ok in 1865. The likable Arthur Guinness has become firmly gay (and a cuckold), unlike much evidence for the original brewer being either. Christian preachers.....all nasty.

13. Peaky Blinders.....the Far right are evil monsters. The Far left are likable fools & dreamers.

14. History Channels etc. ....constant documentaries about Hitler & the Nazi's. Only a tiny percentage of docu's about Stalin and the Soviet Union.

what others ?

Arthur Guinness, 1st Baron Ardilaun - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I believe in Moneyball he actually was in real life.

The War of the Worlds was a good shout. Tom Cruise did an admirable job sprinting from one existential crisis to the next, occasionally remembering he had children. Mind you……

Then along came the BBC, who looked at HG Wells’ masterpiece of cosmic horror and thought, ‘needs more feelings.

It was one I was really looking forward to as well until that.

So instead of panic, plague and mass incineration, we got wistful stares across muddy fields and a subplot about love in a time of tentacles, except, bafflingly, the tentacles weren’t even involved. The Martians were basically background extras in their own apocalypse.

And naturally, the BBC managed to make it a fully multicultural romance, set in the 1800s town of Woking, a place about as diverse back then as the men’s over 70’s line up at Wisbech Eagle’s Bowls Club.

Jeff Wayne gave us Richard Burton booming biblical doom over symphonic rock. the BBC gave us emotional growth and progressive values during an alien genocide.

I’d smelt horseshit that smelt less of horseshit.

 

[silvertop]

I believe in Moneyball he actually was in real life.

The War of the Worlds was a good shout. Tom Cruise did an admirable job sprinting from one existential crisis to the next, occasionally remembering he had children. Mind you……

Then along came the BBC, who looked at HG Wells’ masterpiece of cosmic horror and thought, ‘needs more feelings.

It was one I was really looking forward to as well until that.

So instead of panic, plague and mass incineration, we got wistful stares across muddy fields and a subplot about love in a time of tentacles, except, bafflingly, the tentacles weren’t even involved. The Martians were basically background extras in their own apocalypse.

And naturally, the BBC managed to make it a fully multicultural romance, set in the 1800s town of Woking, a place about as diverse back then as the men’s over 70’s line up at Wisbech Eagle’s Bowls Club.

Jeff Wayne gave us Richard Burton booming biblical doom over symphonic rock. the BBC gave us emotional growth and progressive values during an alien genocide.

I’d smelt horseshit that smelt less of horseshit.

Good post but in defence of the BBC (and ch4) multicultural recruitment of actors is imposed by statute.

Annoying as hell. And I suspect you would have the same even if the channels didn't have the Act and risk to Charter stepping on their necks.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

We all know the arts are full of lefties. Drama has left wing bias all the time.

Whereas once, people might have been indoctrinated by this kind of pervasive brainwashing, more and more now see through it because it does not chime with what they see in the real world.
It now makes them feel angry because their attitudes are being vilified by a small group of liberals who live in a bubble of their own self importance and have a platform to spread their delusions.

Do you seriously think the money men would allow this to happen? If movies promoting right wing values would be popular then they would be made.

You really are seriously out of touch.

 

[cryrst]

Do you seriously think the money men would allow this to happen? If movies promoting right wing values would be popular then they would be made.

You really are seriously out of touch.

I think getting cancelled by a minority who shout loudest is the reason. There will be a reckoning in the uk and the budget could light the fuse. Remember the poll tax !!!

 

[ASCPFC]

Do you seriously think the money men would allow this to happen? If movies promoting right wing values would be popular then they would be made.

You really are seriously out of touch.

Genuinely makes me wonder if some films quite openly have right wing values but are popular. Surely some Clint, Arnie - loads of action movies, westerns, war films. I guess the US army/ navy produced ones were generally poor and not well received. I also then wonder what right wing values would be? Plenty of films have the mother, father and kids don't they? That kind of thing. Again I think you'd have to wonder what right wing values are? I doubt extreme right would be too popular. But you'd have to attend or face questioning. And there'd be a speech for the first twenty minutes where you stand up and clap. Sounds like Butlins cabaret.