Lacroix

Well we didn't bend over for Zaha amd Arsemal and that arguably cost us. I had hoped that with Saliba's injury and the Rogers gazumping, Arsenal would come in for Lacroix but no such luck and I guess we need the money after the January fiasco

BTW, we have never finished 16th in the Premier League, and have managed 10th on two occasions

Arsenal didn't want Wilf there was never an official bid from them.

The only offer he had was Everton for 35m.
 
It has been known for a few months that Lacroix would not be starting the forthcoming season with us.
Clubs of our standing and stature who unveil players of elevated quality will always be prey to clubs of a higher status.
Wharton will be the next cab off the rank.
Wharton will not be leaving Palace this season
 
Being a local lad has to count for something. South London, Surrey or Kent.

A fair few on your list don't tick that box. But Zaha ticks that one too.

Even better if they supported Palace as a kid. Like Jason Puncheon.
Agreed on all points yes. I think "Palace men" come in different forms and being local is certainly one aspect of it. That said, Madueke / Bostock and no doubt many others show this is just part of it. Mark Bright is as Palace as anyone I can think of but he's from the midlands I think originally.
 
Once Lacroix deal is over the line I urge everyone to be prepared. The media will see we have money to spend and link us with all sorts from the usual suspects to your friend that had trials at West Ham. Bonkers season will ensue. Even more so if another leaves i.e. Mateta. I suspect the Matsima deal will happen soon after, I would have it at roughly 22m + addons if i were a betting man. Which would leave us with 30m for Sage to get his targets and/or for Hobbs to show us what he can do. Never will know how the "negotiations" went but I believe another 10m was left on the table. and I feel like even just that amount to make it 40m could do alot more than 30m in this market.
 
Arsenal didn't want Wilf there was never an official bid from them.

The only offer he had was Everton for 35m.
Just because there wasn't an official bid doesn't mean Arsenal didn't want him. They weren't prepared to meet the price and, mistakenly, went for Pepe.

"Everton submitted a new offer of £70m plus James McCarthy that would have also involved the Turkey striker Cenk Tosun joining on a season-long loan." Guardian
 
I do think Mitchell is a "Palace Man", and even though he left for much of his career I do believe Clyney was too.

Deano also just "gets it".

We did indeed have a lot more players in the past who you could say, without tinted glasses, had the club in their hearts. Wardy, Delaney, Kelly, Jedinak, McCarthy, Digcakoi, Ambrose, Speroni, Puncheon, Gayle, Bamford etc.

Part of levelling up is losing a bit of that realness unfortunately. Still I recon there is a little bit of it still kicking around the place.
Bamford?! Lord Bamford? Palace at heart? 😆
I think you included that name by mistake Linford! 🍺🍻🍻🍹🍹🍸🍺😵‍💫
 
50 mil for Olise was a joke, same as 50 mil for Lacroix is.
Yes Olise 50m does now seem 30m short at the time , but he was still injury prone then , so if we had kept him and his injurys get worse then we would have been lucky to get 25m , so not so much of a joke in real time , as they say hind sight is a wonderful thing
 
The most annoying part of this is our success has benefited the players more it seems than the club.

It’s a horrible thought but you get the feeling that most players just look at us as a short term location to show their talent then reap the benefits of an onward move.

Name another top tier club that has lost the combined ability of Olise, Eze, Guehi and Lacroix in such a short period of time without properly replacing them? I can’t think of one.
 
The most annoying part of this is our success has benefited the players more it seems than the club.

It’s a horrible thought but you get the feeling that most players just look at us as a short term location to show their talent then reap the benefits of an onward move.

Name another top tier club that has lost the combined ability of Olise, Eze, Guehi and Lacroix in such a short period of time without properly replacing them? I can’t think of one.

They were all probably going to go anyway. Nice to have them all at the same time and win somthing with them. 🙂 We won't look back in 10-15 years and think "what if".
 
Yes Olise 50m does now seem 30m short at the time , but he was still injury prone then , so if we had kept him and his injurys get worse then we would have been lucky to get 25m , so not so much of a joke in real time , as they say hind sight is a wonderful thing
Also, as there was a release clause - it's hardly a joke if a club meets the terms and the player wants to go. At least, it seems, there is a sell-on clause which could earn us upward of £15m if he moves to the pinnacle that is Real Madrid, the 15 times winners of the European Cup/Champions League.
 
They were all probably going to go anyway. Nice to have them all at the same time and win somthing with them. 🙂 We won't look back in 10-15 years and think "what if".
Putting it like that brings a whole new level to the expression, “you’ve had your cup final mate”.
 
Ward and Mitchell are ‘Palace men’ because no one has shown any interest in signing them. See how ‘Palace they are’ if offered champions league football and double the wages


I do think Mitchell is a "Palace Man", and even though he left for much of his career I do believe Clyney was too.

Deano also just "gets it".

We did indeed have a lot more players in the past who you could say, without tinted glasses, had the club in their hearts. Wardy, Delaney, Kelly, Jedinak, McCarthy, Digcakoi, Ambrose, Speroni, Puncheon, Gayle, Bamford etc.

Part of levelling up is losing a bit of that realness unfortunately. Still I recon there is a little bit of it still kicking around the place.
 
The most annoying part of this is our success has benefited the players more it seems than the club.

It’s a horrible thought but you get the feeling that most players just look at us as a short term location to show their talent then reap the benefits of an onward move.

Name another top tier club that has lost the combined ability of Olise, Eze, Guehi and Lacroix in such a short period of time without properly replacing them? I can’t think of one.


How can you "properly replace" players of that quality? Jeez.
 
The most annoying part of this is our success has benefited the players more it seems than the club.

It’s a horrible thought but you get the feeling that most players just look at us as a short term location to show their talent then reap the benefits of an onward move.

Name another top tier club that has lost the combined ability of Olise, Eze, Guehi and Lacroix in such a short period of time without properly replacing them? I can’t think of one.
Including Lacroix is unfair as how can you expect him to have been replaced by someone who's immediately at his level?

As for the other 3:
  • Sarr has already in 2 years done more than Olise ever did (given Olise's njuries)
  • Pino is rapidly improving and he's not a World Cup Winner for nothing. I expect him to perform at a level that will match Eze
  • We already have Guehi replacements in the squad in both Riad and Canvot. They both need more time for somewhat different reasons to show their worth. The Guehi of 2021 (when he joined) was nothing like the one we sold last January.
Let's see how our replacements do in the coming season before moaning.

Bournemouth have lost 4 defenders plus Semenyo and Ouattara in the last 2 years and still come up smelling of roses because ultimately it's not about individual players but about how a team gels as we showed in both the cup final and the Community Shield.

Newcastle have been seeing their top players hoovered up in recent times; Anderson to balance the books. Isak, Tonali and Gordon come to mind.

It's not just 'poor old Palace'.
 
I'm ready to be shot down here... but am I the only person who isn't that unhappy with this? If we had to sell any high value player this summer - I'd have chosen Lacroix. He's a solid defender but I don’t think he's a world beater.

In terms of passing range and taking the ball forward I think Canvot has a far higher ceiling.
 

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