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I wouldn't know mate.

But I've seen the stuff the Chinese state use....quite something.

That said, the tech has been around for some time now, but it's still impressive to see it used and expanded to that scale.

Horrendous for the freedom of the individual.

Minority report-like.

The Chinese face recognition must be amazing. Because a lot of Chinese have the same facial traits. (at this point I feel a Prince Phillip moment beckoning),...but straight dark hair, for starters 🙂
 
My post was not so much my personal view but more a cry to those clever posters on here to persuade me why. At present, it is just discussed in potential and theoretical risk - where any well thought law can carry the necessary checks and balances to address them.

Thus, while tracking movement through phones by government is not yet standard, MI5 etc. will do this for high risk subjects (no objection from me); and this already exists as a nasty issue with e.g. women forced to upload apps on their phones in controlling and coercive marriages.

The point is - what do you care if there is a record of you driving to Tesco to buy milk? How would it be used by the state to have any meaning in your life? If someone was to disappear, it could be used to trace them; if there was a murder it could be used to check an alibi. Both good things, no?

Also, if you genuinely think our spending and website visits are not already data stored and retained by those who readily exploit it without your permission, then you haven't been paying attention. On that, the cards will only shift the tech, not the fact.

Lawbreakers will, of course, not comply. But that may make it easier to divide them from the population who do comply and thereby make them easier to detect and control. You never know...
As I said if other people want this then fine but I see no benefit for me and I will resist as best as I can.
 
I will admit to its advantages....cctv already plays a major role in detection compared to the past.

However, we shouldn't be ignorant to the evils inherent within the system by what the technology affords, which I'm sure you appreciate as well.

It's less about the technology, it's about the intent of the people using it.

Was ever thus.
Yes, it's the way it's used not the tech.
 
Back on topic.

I just caught the second half of Starmer’s speech to the Labour Conference.

Powerful and pointed is how I would summarise it. Calling out Reform for the racism that lies at the heart of its message and not mincing words.

It will be interesting to see the way the media handle it.
 
Back on topic.

I just caught the second half of Starmer’s speech to the Labour Conference.

Powerful and pointed is how I would summarise it. Calling out Reform for the racism that lies at the heart of its message and not mincing words.

It will be interesting to see the way the media handle it.
He knows that Farage is the next PM in waiting, so the lying starts now for the next GE (he hasn't quite realised yet that the UK public see Starmer for what he is, ie, a lying useless politician)
 
He knows that Farage is the next PM in waiting, so the lying starts now for the next GE (he hasn't quite realised yet that the UK public see Starmer for what he is, ie, a lying useless politician)
He knows what I know.

That Farage is a self serving slime ball who is prepared to promise the earth to con disillusioned voters. Someone who lied to help get Brexit over the line so carries a huge amount of responsibility for our current decline.

Farage is to the UK what Trump is to the USA. A populist con merchant promising green grass to honest donkeys, without the means to produce it.
 
He knows what I know.

That Farage is a self serving slime ball who is prepared to promise the earth to con disillusioned voters. Someone who lied to help get Brexit over the line so carries a huge amount of responsibility for our current decline.

Farage is to the UK what Trump is to the USA. A populist con merchant promising green grass to honest donkeys, without the means to produce it.
Give me Trump over Starmer!
 

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