Israel v Iran

[Matov]

I’m not so sure, I think people will be surprised how many would welcome a regime change, none more than the oppressed women

There has been talk of a 'colour' revolution for a while. One of the interviews I saw today, and I accept that it's hard to put any kind of credibility to much in this day and age, was an Iranian woman, not wearing any kind of head-covering, demanding that Iran now very much develop it's own nukes now.

Again, any and everything can be, and potentially is, astroturfed so you cannot put much credence on anything but I suspect the situation in Iran is perhaps more nuanced than we are led to believe. All I do know is that as a country with massive reserves of oil, gas and a host of other minerals much in demand, then there could be a lot of interested parties in perhaps seeing a more user-friendly regime installed.

On a personal level, always rather liked the few Persians I have known. Tend to be mad as badgers but always interesting people.

 

[Matov]

Funny videos showing the “activists “ marching through Egypt to “ free Gaza”. They were attacked and heckled by Egyptians who didn’t want them there.

To be fair, the Egyptians have not covered themselves in much glory when it comes to Gaza. Israel gets a lot of the stick, and quite bloody(literally) rightly so, but Egypt is just as guilty in many ways as acting as jailor for millions of people.

 

[HKOwen]

Widely regarded as the foundation of modern terrorism.

Also Israel sent agents to London who ran a letter-bomb campaign, some ex-personnel had their faces blown off.

More Jew hating from the pro Hamas guy.

The murder of British troops by future leaders of Israel was a war crime in all but name but that is nothing to do with what is going on now.

If it was up to me many Hagganah and Stern gang would have been hung.

 

[eaglesdare]

Israel really is the only thing standing between the rest of the west from going full radical islam.

 

[Matov]

Israel really is the only thing standing between the rest of the west from going full radical islam.

Or the instigator of the West becoming swampped with radical Islamists? When you look at the various regime changes instigated around the world, Israel is a common theme in supporting them. Gaddafi in Libya is the prime example.

His removal was utter insanity and led to the migrant waves we are still experiencing now. At whose behest was he removed?

Sorry, but Israel does not stand between us and anything. At best it is indifferent to our plight, at worse it is behind it all.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Or the instigator of the West becoming swampped with radical Islamists? When you look at the various regime changes instigated around the world, Israel is a common theme in supporting them. Gaddafi in Libya is the prime example.

His removal was utter insanity and led to the migrant waves we are still experiencing now. At whose behest was he removed?

Sorry, but Israel does not stand between us and anything. At best it is indifferent to our plight, at worse it is behind it all.

I don't see it as Israel as such.....they are more indifferent I think.

The problem with getting into the whole 'Jews are out to replace whites...trans and gay the west' narrative is that you have major Jews who are utterly against it. The points you are making speak to an issue that is very complex and has moving parts. Most Jews aren't part of this but it's certainly true that politically they vote 70/30 left in Europe and too many view themselves as 'other' with a minority mindset.

It's too easy to fall into a 'Jews' bad narrative when the reality is that Jews have been part of Europe for thousands of years. They are in the DR as well, so I prefer to think of it as more a neo communism problem...central banking/corporate and globalist interests aligned with anti white progressivism.

Where interests align.

We are all needed to defeat neo communism.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Israeli air defence appears to hit most but not all incoming Iranian missiles.

 

[HKOwen]

Israeli air defence appears to hit most but not all incoming Iranian missiles.

Steeleye and Beak will be very unhappy at that, but glad at least some got through

 

[Stirlingsays]

Emergency teams out in Beit Yam, Tel Aviv.

 

[Stirlingsays]

At least six impacts reported in the Greater Tel-Aviv Area of Central Israel, following the latest waves of ballistic missile from Iran and Yemen.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Iranian defence minister reported dead.

 

[HKOwen]

Tragically there will be a cost to civilians in both countries. So difficult for everyday Iranians to do anything, the Govt has maybe 150,000 IRG whose very lives and certainly livelihoods depend on the status quo.

Would need a very co-ordinated effort by other military branches to effect regime change.

If Iran stopped attacking Israel by proxies and now directly, gave up nuclear cahnged policy from the destruction of Isreal then all this death would go away.

Iran is the only country I know that has the destruction of another country as Government policy.

It can never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon for this reason alone.

 

[HKOwen]

Iranian defence minister reported dead.

You would think Israel has the ability to dramatically degrade Iran's ability to attack Israel but will take time, not something can be done in a few days

Forcing Iran to the negotiating table is good apart from that the current regime simply cannot be trusted to abide by anything they say

 

[Stirlingsays]

Iranian air defence activity reported in Tehran, Karaj and Isfahan in central and northern Iran. Nuclear sites reported targeted.

 

[Stirlingsays]

More Israeli sorties airborne.
Iran probably isn't going to have much of an oil and gas industry by morning.

Fill your tank while you can.

 

[Stirlingsays]

'The nothing ever happens guy has taken an L' (Academic Agent)

 

[Stirlingsays]

Pentagon convened to discusses Israel's request to intervene in the war against Iran, according to NBC.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Brigadier General Khosrow Hassani, deputy director of intelligence for the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' Aerospace Force, reported killed during Israeli Strikes alongside IRGC Aerospace Force Commander Amir Ali Hajizadeh.

 

[HKOwen]

Brigadier General Khosrow Hassani, deputy director of intelligence for the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' Aerospace Force, reported killed during Israeli Strikes alongside IRGC Aerospace Force Commander Amir Ali Hajizadeh.

Many heads to the Iranian hydra

 

[Spiderman]

Probably wrong thread, apologies mods.
Do these MPs not realise that these are exactly the type of young Iranian men who have been entering the UK, undocumented, for years! Woken up too late I’m afraid

Revolutionary Guard MUST be banned before someone is killed in UK, MPs warn

SIR Keir Starmer must “cut the head off the snake” and ban Iran’s terror army before they kill someone on the streets of Britain, say MPs. The PM has promised to proscribe the Iranian Revolutionary…

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