Israel v Iran

Stirlingsays said:
At this point it's more interesting to know who doesn't have a right to defend itself.
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All I know is that one team is trying to take over my continent, and the other, despite fancying itself a bit, is no threat.
 
Stirlingsays said:
At this point it's more interesting to know who doesn't have a right to defend itself.
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Within it's own border I suggest Israel does, but not in territory it illegally occupies.

But the US and Israel have disdain for international law, and now the UK, France and Germany governments too.

Meanwhile, Donald and Bibi have an unlucky day:-


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Wisbech Eagle said:
Of course they do but defending yourself doesn’t involve genocide! In requires restraining and ultimately defeating those who are attacking you. Not wiping out the innocent bystanders too.
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They have exercised restraint. Don't you think that they could've just killed a million by now otherwise?
 
Spindle said:
They have exercised restraint. Don't you think that they could've just killed a million by now otherwise?
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That they could have gone even further is hardly showing restraint. They are just pushing the limits of what will be accepted in the US. Death by 500 cuts just takes twice as long as death by 1000 but it's still death. If trying to do it quickly means you might be restrained by your big brother being worried about world opinion then you manage the pace.
 
steeleye20 said:
Within it's own border I suggest Israel does, but not in territory it illegally occupies.

But the US and Israel have disdain for international law, and now the UK, France and Germany governments too.

Meanwhile, Donald and Bibi have an unlucky day:-


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'Might is right' has been the reality of the world since forever.

Islam had and has zero issues with forcing, via any means all the religions of the middle east out and making nearly all of the countries totally Islamic....with the tiny numbers remaining being under the thumb and threat and suspected much more than minorities in Israel (but restrictions happen in Israel too).

But today what Israel does is judged by western standards, while the Islamic world were allowed to do all that away from cameras......Still does in Africa.

I do think that Israel has to listen to western opinions as genetically it majority comes from there...financially and militarily still does for a large part. So I'm not saying that Israel is divorced from moral arguments over Palestine.....I just bristle a bit when people ignore what Islam did and still maintains to this day.

But if a Jew does it....Oh that's different.....Not really, the crap result for the person at the end of 'might is right' remains the same.

For me the argument over Gaza is done....it's not livable and the US allowed Israel to do that. I think Israel have got away with shaping what comes next and for me the best end solution for Gazans would be to be shipped out to Syria.

But no one's willing to do that costly work.
 
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Stirlingsays said:
Well this is what the left wanted because it hated the British Empire....and like everything else that isn't them they worked tirelessly to turn us into an impotent nation.....and late on they found an uneasy partner with the corporate neoliberal Tories who only cared about 'line go up' and keeping house prices high for boomers.

Collectively they fecked the country and we went from one of the strongest nations in the world pre WW2 to essentially a 'citizen of nowhere' country less than a hundred years later.

Our voice in the world reduced to being a client state of one of our colonies begging for scraps.
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This is a good post. The left's desire to turn Britain into an impotent nation is why they desperately wanted us to remain in the EU where we are rule takers and kept in line by Germany and France. Just because they feel guilty about Britain having an empire. Anyway, I digress...
 
Spindle said:
A new resort has opened up. Somewhere for steely and other Axis of Evil defenders to go on their hols.

www.bbc.co.uk

North Korea to open beach resort as Kim Jong Un bets on tourism

Wonsan Kalma opens to domestic tourists on 1 July, six years after it was due to be completed.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Just think how good a beach resort and holiday destination could have been in Gaza and the economy if Hamas didn't spend international aid on digging tunnels and buying rockets.
 
Spindle said:
A new resort has opened up. Somewhere for steely and other Axis of Evil defenders to go on their hols.

www.bbc.co.uk

North Korea to open beach resort as Kim Jong Un bets on tourism

Wonsan Kalma opens to domestic tourists on 1 July, six years after it was due to be completed.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Hol should save up for an 'axis of evil' North Korea beach holiday.

With the provision that we all have to go dressed as Kim Jong Un complete with shades and a beer belly.
 
Poor lamb can't like my post but did the following relink of the same article.

Penge E is wrong, the Gazans didn't buy rockets, they dug up their own water supply pipes to make them. 700km worth. Then cried about having no water.
 
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