Israel v Hamas

[indianapalace85]

Nobody said they were in every school and hospital but they have been in many and it's a well-known strategy. I would be furious if Hamas used my family members as human shields! The blame starts with those who weaponise humans.

Hamas hiding in hospitals is a war crime. If Israel targets the hospitals in a measured way, it's perfectly legal.

Yes but the whole point is there has been NOTHING measured or legal about Israel's response in the slightest.

 

[Penge Eagle]

Basically, in Netanyhau's eyes, October 7th was the best thing he could have hoped for.

A perfect excuse to wipe Palestians off the map.

The same tactic Putin is using against Ukraine and most wars in last 25 years that have been started under the BS pretence of weapons of mass destruction, which we all know was a load of lying crap, whereas the West just had their own agenda.

If Israel wanted to wipe Palestinians off the map, they would have done so by now as they have the capability. Stop talking conspiracy theories.

 

[indianapalace85]

This is full of hyperbole and conspiracy theories.

Are you Israeli?

Cos that is literally all they ever say.

They even have called the West out on supporting the ICC!

 

[indianapalace85]

If Israel wanted to wipe Palestinians off the map, they would have done so by now as they have the capability. Stop talking conspiracy theories.

I'm not sure which rock you're living under, but yes they have the capability and are using it daily.

You have the Europe and the West condemning Israel's actions on the whole, aside from our own culpable government, and urge them for ceasefires - which Netanyahu has no interest in.

To any human with an ounce of humanity left, it's called GENOCIDE.
To anyone else, the deniers, it's called a conspiracy.

We know which camp you're in.

 

[Penge Eagle]

Yes but the whole point is there has been NOTHING measured or legal about Israel's response in the slightest.

Being "measured" is a luxury you cannot afford to have in war. Has conflicts in Syria, Afghanistan or Iraq been "measured"? Or does it only matter when those pesky JEWS are at it? When your enemy hides in schools, mosques and hospitals, you cannot expect zero collateral damage.

 

[Penge Eagle]

I'm not sure which rock you're living under, but yes they have the capability and are using it daily.

You have the Europe and the West condemning Israel's actions on the whole, aside from our own culpable government, and urge them for ceasefires - which Netanyahu has no interest in.

To any human with an ounce of humanity left, it's called GENOCIDE.
To anyone else, the deniers, it's called a conspiracy.

We know which camp you're in.

You are clearly very ignorant to how international law works.

 

[indianapalace85]

Being "measured" is a luxury you cannot afford to have in war. Has conflicts in Syria, Afghanistan or Iraq been "measured"? Or does it only matter when those pesky JEWS are at it? When your enemy hides in schools, mosques and hospitals, you cannot expect zero collateral damage.

How convenient.

Nobody is saying some collateral damage isn't likely - but to the level we're seeing now?

This is not collateral.
These are targeted missiles aiming for residential areas pretending Hamas are there.

If they're hiding in hospitals and schools only, then why is amost the entirely of Gaza destroyed into rubble, but conveniently untouched on the Israeli side?

 

[indianapalace85]

You are clearly very ignorant to how international law works.

I think you're very ignorant and naive to almost every point raised.

Tell me one part of international law, incidentally, that has been followed by Netanyahu or the IDF.
Give me one example of a proportionate response, where you deem the "collateral" reasonable.

And I don't imagine you care much, but how much collateral is too much in your eyes?
100,000? 500,000? 5 million? Until every Palestinian is destoyed or de-homed?

Why aren't Israel and the IDF liable to war crimes the same way other nations are?
Why are Israeli soldiers breaking other soldiers out of prisons for raping women?
Why are you continuing to defend the indefensible?

 

[Penge Eagle]

How convenient.

Nobody is saying some collateral damage isn't likely - but to the level we're seeing now?

This is not collateral.
These are targeted missiles aiming for residential areas pretending Hamas are there.

If they're hiding in hospitals and schools only, then why is amost the entirely of Gaza destroyed into rubble, but conveniently untouched on the Israeli side?

"Pretending Hamas are there"... So you know this for a fact? The blame lies with Hamas for hiding military infrastructure in civilian areas. The IDF have to then blow up remaining buildings that have been booby-trapped by Hamas. Israel is "untouched" because it is forced to spend billions of dollars to protect its citizens with its Iron Dome. Israel doesn't use human shields, yet you think they are the immoral ones.

 

[Penge Eagle]

I think you're very ignorant and naive to almost every point raised.

Tell me one part of international law, incidentally, that has been followed by Netanyahu or the IDF.
Give me one example of a proportionate response, where you deem the "collateral" reasonable.

And I don't imagine you care much, but how much collateral is too much in your eyes?
100,000? 500,000? 5 million? Until every Palestinian is destoyed or de-homed?

Why aren't Israel and the IDF liable to war crimes the same way other nations are?
Why are Israeli soldiers breaking other soldiers out of prisons for raping women?
Why are you continuing to defend the indefensible?

Again, please read up on the process of international law. Israel operates under more scrutiny than almost any other military on earth. You (and others) set them impossible standards, yet ignore the terror attacks that started this war.

 

[indianapalace85]

"Pretending Hamas are there"... So you know this for a fact? The blame lies with Hamas for hiding military infrastructure in civilian areas. The IDF have to then blow up remaining buildings that have been booby-trapped by Hamas. Israel is "untouched" because it is forced to spend billions of dollars to protect its citizens with its Iron Dome. Israel doesn't use human shields, yet you think they are the immoral ones.

It's up to Israel to prove that Hamas are where they say they are.
There doesn't seem to be any discussion on collateral as that has long since been discarded.

Why are the IDF shooting at aid workers and reporters?
Why are international reporters not allowed in Gaza?
Why are Palestinians being told to evacuate and then shot when leaving?

Yes the iron dome, funded entirely by the West, doesn't need human shields because when you have the West's politicians and military might behind you, you're always going to win.

The fact you think there is nothing immoral about Israel or the IDF's behaviour tells me everything I need to know about you and your worth as a human.

 

[cryrst]

What have I said that’s anti Jewish? Be specific or delete and apologise. Again.

Aww bless precious 😂

 

[indianapalace85]

Again, please read up on the process of international law. Israel operates under more scrutiny than almost any other military on earth. You (and others) set them impossible standards, yet ignore the terror attacks that started this war.

Have you ever stopped for one moment to think why they are under more scrutiny?

And your last sentence is absolutely opathetic and growing tiresome.

Find me anyone that hasn't admitted October 7th was horrendous - yet that is your only tactic - whataboutery.

Let me ask you this - if the UK army decided to kill 1000 Isreali troops in cold blood, would you say it's reasonable for them to retaliate against the whole of the UK?

It's almost a rhetorical question, because I know only drivel comes out of your mouth, but I live in hope...

 

[cryrst]

Have you ever stopped for one moment to think why they are under more scrutiny?

And your last sentence is absolutely opathetic and growing tiresome.

Find me anyone that hasn't admitted October 7th was horrendous - yet that is your only tactic - whataboutery.

Let me ask you this - if the UK army decided to kill 1000 Isreali troops in cold blood, would you say it's reasonable for them to retaliate against the whole of the UK?

It's almost a rhetorical question, because I know only drivel comes out of your mouth, but I live in hope...

You’re having a laugh. Our sqaddies would kiss them to death.

 

[DanH]

People more arsed about what some rapper they hadn’t heard of before this weekend said on stage than they are about this.

Israeli strike on Gaza seafront cafe kills at least 20 Palestinians, witnesses and rescuers say

The outdoor cafe was frequently used by journalists, activists and local residents.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[indianapalace85]

People more arsed about what some rapper they hadn’t heard of before this weekend said on stage than they are about this.

Israeli strike on Gaza seafront cafe kills at least 20 Palestinians, witnesses and rescuers say

The outdoor cafe was frequently used by journalists, activists and local residents.

www.bbc.co.uk

Any moment now, Spindle will try to explain how it must be fact that Hamas were hiding on the beaches disguised as sandcastles and in the cafes disguised as tables.

Another despicable act from Israel, deliberately targeting activists, journalists and residents.

 

[Penge Eagle]

It's up to Israel to prove that Hamas are where they say they are.
There doesn't seem to be any discussion on collateral as that has long since been discarded.

Why are the IDF shooting at aid workers and reporters?
Why are international reporters not allowed in Gaza?
Why are Palestinians being told to evacuate and then shot when leaving?

Yes the iron dome, funded entirely by the West, doesn't need human shields because when you have the West's politicians and military might behind you, you're always going to win.

The fact you think there is nothing immoral about Israel or the IDF's behaviour tells me everything I need to know about you and your worth as a human.

You're simply repeating Hamas propaganda.

 

[Penge Eagle]

Have you ever stopped for one moment to think why they are under more scrutiny?

And your last sentence is absolutely opathetic and growing tiresome.

Find me anyone that hasn't admitted October 7th was horrendous - yet that is your only tactic - whataboutery.

Let me ask you this - if the UK army decided to kill 1000 Isreali troops in cold blood, would you say it's reasonable for them to retaliate against the whole of the UK?

It's almost a rhetorical question, because I know only drivel comes out of your mouth, but I live in hope...

OK armchair general, tell me how would you have responded as Israel to October 7?

 

[indianapalace85]

OK armchair general, tell me how would you have responded as Israel to October 7?

This has been mentioned to death.

Your ignorance, low IQ and apparent blindness is becoming boring now.

Go and wave your Israeli flag and bow down to your terrorist leader.

 

[Penge Eagle]

This has been mentioned to death.

Your ignorance, low IQ and apparent blindness is becoming boring now.

Go and wave your Israeli flag and bow down to your terrorist leader.

Please enlighten me on how you, the military expert, would have responded to Oct 7? No answer. You can only throw insults and parrot propaganda from a proscribed terrorist organisation.