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Israel v Hamas

He's never going to have known this as it's not an MSM sound bite! Likewise when Israel returned the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt, yet they hunger colonising more land apparently. And nobody seemed to have a problem when the West Bank was occupied by Jordan.

Lol. Just another ‘does his own research’ red pilled internet bro.
 
And the region famously called Palestine because of a word someone just made up in the Sixties and not a couple of thousand years before.

Good point. Let's look at history, let's go back to the original names. There was Philistine in the Gaza area, and the similar Roman name for the whole area despite areas being locally called Judea and Gallilae, several hundred years before Islam existed.

It's disingenuous to suggest that Palestine is a race, religion or historical country, because it's not, as I originally said. You've had plenty of opportunity to tell us otherwise, but you can't, and you're indoctrinated into this same online gaslighting campaign about this fictional nation and people.

Ofc I'd have sympathy with them if they weren't so hell-bent on trying to kill the jews
 
Good point. Let's look at history, let's go back to the original names. There was Philistine in the Gaza area, and the similar Roman name for the whole area despite areas being locally called Judea and Gallilae, several hundred years before Islam existed.

It's disingenuous to suggest that Palestine is a race, religion or historical country, because it's not, as I originally said. You've had plenty of opportunity to tell us otherwise, but you can't, and you're indoctrinated into this same online gaslighting campaign about this fictional nation and people.

Ofc I'd have sympathy with them if they weren't so hell-bent on trying to kill the jews

It’s also extremely disingenuous to try and boil the entire thing down to one event in the 60s.
 
Good point. Let's look at history, let's go back to the original names. There was Philistine in the Gaza area, and the similar Roman name for the whole area despite areas being locally called Judea and Gallilae, several hundred years before Islam existed.

It's disingenuous to suggest that Palestine is a race, religion or historical country, because it's not, as I originally said. You've had plenty of opportunity to tell us otherwise, but you can't, and you're indoctrinated into this same online gaslighting campaign about this fictional nation and people.

Ofc I'd have sympathy with them if they weren't so hell-bent on trying to kill the jews

You know how p1ssed off you are at Brexit and those who voted leave....seemingly because it's mucked up your preferred retirement plans.

Now imagine that instead of that I've taken your house and killed some of your relatives and restricted the lifestyles, movement and opportunities of your grandchildren.

How would you feel about that?

You can't expect Palestinians to be anything other than what they are....a radicalised people. They weren't in 1947 and now they are....and it would be the same for any other group.
 
Well no, because Palestine was made up in 1967, or do you think they are some sort of ancient people?
The word Palestine is of ancient origin.

And I always believed the people were blown in by the Ottomans. Actually they are also of ancient origin and pre date the tribes of Israel in the region.

They are not a true nation as they have always lived under someone's thumb. But they are people.
 
Very sad indeed. No argument.

Can't seem to find a post from you expressing similar worthy sentiment for any Palestinian children killed in Israeli drone strikes, or starving civilians gunned down by Israeli soldiers after pressing for food..

Perhaps we should wait for these incidents to be posted through the official IDF site before we express our sympathy?
 
I haven't though. That's just the date that Arafat came up with formalising his new fake people and country
Look I'm no fan of the Palestinians nor of Arabs in general.....However, 'fake people'? How on earth are they a fake people?

The Jews didn't have a nation for thousands of years, were they are fake people until someone rubber stamped a nation? Of course not, they sodding come from the same area.
 
Very sad indeed. No argument.

Can't seem to find a post from you expressing similar worthy sentiment for any Palestinian children killed in Israeli drone strikes, or starving civilians gunned down by Israeli soldiers after pressing for food..

Perhaps we should wait for these incidents to be posted through the official IDF site before we express our sympathy?

Israel faces an enemy that hides among civilians. They use hostages as leverage and sparked this war with the attack on October 7.
Israels operations aim to protect its people and secure peace and not to harm civilians.

Don’t you think ending Hamases reign of terror would reduce suffering for both sides?
 
Israel faces an enemy that hides among civilians. They use hostages as leverage and sparked this war with the attack on October 7.
Israels operations aim to protect its people and secure peace and not to harm civilians.

Don’t you think ending Hamases reign of terror would reduce suffering for both sides?
Good grief.

Too much to unpack.
 
What was already a situation made extremely difficult to pick any information of truth out of, Has now been shunted down to very small paragraphs, here and there in the media. This is because of Netanyahu's attack on Iran, which i think served multiple purposes for his regime.
The Palestinians being starved to death and killed by IDF military action, is now dropping down the table of newsworthiness. But it's still happening.

and indeed very sad about the hostages. I hope there's enough evidence to track down the culprits and bypass the need for any judicial involvement.
 
The word Palestine is of ancient origin.

And I always believed the people were blown in by the Ottomans. Actually they are also of ancient origin and pre date the tribes of Israel in the region.

They are not a true nation as they have always lived under someone's thumb. But they are people.

The ancient Israelites predate modern Palestinians by over 2,000 years.

Modern Palestinians did not exist in biblical times.

Palestinian identity is modern and political.
 
Good grief.

Too much to unpack.
The Hamas attack on October 7 started this war.

Israels goal is to stop a group that uses civilians as shields and holds hostages including innocent children to prevent more attacks.

So it's not really much to unpack. Infact it is fairly simple unless you are pro hamas. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Look I'm no fan of the Palestinians nor of Arabs in general.....However, 'fake people'? How on earth are they a fake people?

The Jews didn't have a nation for thousands of years, were they are fake people until someone rubber stamped a nation? Of course not, they sodding come from the same area.
I said they're not a race or ethnic group, that's the context. They also aren't an individual religious group. The Jews are.
 
You know how p1ssed off you are at Brexit and those who voted leave....seemingly because it's mucked up your preferred retirement plans.

Now imagine that instead of that I've taken your house and killed some of your relatives and restricted the lifestyles, movement and opportunities of your grandchildren.

How would you feel about that?

You can't expect Palestinians to be anything other than what they are....a radicalised people. They weren't in 1947 and now they are....and it would be the same for any other group.

So you are joining Steeley and blaming the Jews?

I've just pointed out the history of the place nothing more.
 
The word Palestine is of ancient origin.

And I always believed the people were blown in by the Ottomans. Actually they are also of ancient origin and pre date the tribes of Israel in the region.

They are not a true nation as they have always lived under someone's thumb. But they are people.

"A people", don't misrepresent what I actually said
 

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