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Israel v Hamas

steeleye20 said:
Andrew Marr to the Israeli ambassador 'Why are you killing innocent civilians queueing for food?'

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Lies from Marr, and you They weren't queuing for food. They confronted soldiers and were outside where they were allowed to be. Wouldn't be surprised if they brought their kids along in the hope they'd be killed so they could complain about it.

Its no wonder nobody wants these people.
 
Spindle said:
He opened with his feelings. So it's his opinion, about a situation he's as physically close to as you or I, and that's not reporting.
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It's an opinion piece - one of the most common types of journalism there is, which makes no claims at all about impartiality.

Amazed that needs explaining.
 
Spindle said:
Lies from Marr, and you They weren't queuing for food. They confronted soldiers and were outside where they were allowed to be. Wouldn't be surprised if they brought their kids along in the hope they'd be killed so they could complain about it.

Its no wonder nobody wants these people.
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How do you know they confronted soldiers?
 
Penge Eagle said:
I think the person who posted this didn't notice.
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What do you take me for? It’s an opinion piece of a senior journalist for a respected news organisation with a distinguished career.

It’s an opinion but one that should be listened to. Keep sticking your fingers in your ears.
 
DanH said:
The cognitive dissonance, on a usually decent poster, is quite staggering.
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In the last few days he has accused Palestinian mothers of deliberately starving their infants for propaganda and separately accused Palestinian parents of 'hoping their kids would be killed so they could complain about it'.

I can't describe how twisted you have to be to end up thinking things like that.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
In the last few days he has accused Palestinian mothers of deliberately starving their infants for propaganda and separately accused Palestinian parents of 'hoping their kids would be killed so they could complain about it'.

I can't describe how twisted you have to be to end up thinking things like that.
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I think when you accept that they don’t see one human life on one side as equal to a human life on the other than it makes more sense to their position.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
In the last few days he has accused Palestinian mothers of deliberately starving their infants for propaganda and separately accused Palestinian parents of 'hoping their kids would be killed so they could complain about it'.

I can't describe how twisted you have to be to end up thinking things like that.
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Yup, it's really twisted

I'm very suspiciaous of the lengths this group will go to. Most of the 'famine' pictures I've seen have zero relation to the kinds of famine seen on our screens in the past, such as 80's Ethiopia. There are cases, one the BBC showed in a story before saying that the child had a disease that, actually, would cause it. And if you do care to google these malnourished kids, you won't see a malnourished mother, and they are isolated, you dont see big groups, just individuals.

So no, I don't believe them.
 
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DanH said:
I think when you accept that they don’t see one human life on one side as equal to a human life on the other than it makes more sense to their position.
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Don't label me, I think it's terrible. But I also put this at the hands of the adults for allowing this to happen. If you think that some of these people aren't willing to have their kids die for their cause then you were born yesterday. This is why specifically I consider this group of people the worst parents in the world.

Still no surrender, no revolt against a decapitated Hamas, still no handing over of hostages, in fact they've taken more.
 
Spindle said:
Don't label me, I think it's terrible. But I also put this at the hands of the adults for allowing this to happen. If you think that some of these people aren't willing to have their kids die for their cause then you were born yesterday. This is why specifically I consider this group of people the worst parents in the world.

Still no surrender, no revolt against a decapitated Hamas, still no handing over of hostages, in fact they've taken more.
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I respect your opinion for nearly everything you post on here, and this is far more nuanced. The whole ‘hamas supporting’, ‘Jew hating’ and ‘genocide supporting’ is useful to no one.

I can’t speak for anyone one else on here but all I see with the current trajectory is a complete destruction and/or displacement of the Palestinian people (note - Hamas can get to f*ck). And worryingly few people in the west with the power to stop it showing any real signs of doing so.
 
Spindle said:
Yup, it's really twisted

I'm very suspiciaous of the lengths this group will go to. Most of the 'famine' pictures I've seen have zero relation to the kinds of famine seen on our screens in the past, such as 80's Ethiopia. There are cases, one the BBC showed in a story before saying that the child had a disease that, actually, would cause it. And if you do care to google these malnourished kids, you won't see a malnourished mother, and they are isolated, you dont see big groups, just individuals.

So no, I don't believe them.
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And you certainly won't see a malnourished hamas fighter
 
DanH said:
I respect your opinion for nearly everything you post on here, and this is far more nuanced. The whole ‘hamas supporting’, ‘Jew hating’ and ‘genocide supporting’ is useful to no one.

I can’t speak for anyone one else on here but all I see with the current trajectory is a complete destruction and/or displacement of the Palestinian people (note - Hamas can get to f*ck). And worryingly few people in the west with the power to stop it showing any real signs of doing so.
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They are invaders anyway. Palestine isn't a nation nor religion nor ethnic group. They are Arabs and many from different regions.. I actually think that they need a country though, and personally I would move all of them, give them passports and a nation. I'd give them the west bank as a nation and have it policed by other Arab nations and build it. If they attack Israel they are a sovereign state alone, let the chips fall where they may.
 
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