Israel v Hamas

[eaglesdare]

Maybe one day, but clearly not yet.

Likewise 👍🏻

 

[CPFCSaturn]

It's telling that you dismiss Israels right to defend itself against Hamas a group openly dedicated to its destruction as "IDF tropes"

The real knots tying is ignoring the thousands of rockets fired at Israeli civilians in the October 7th massacre and Hamas use of human shields while crying foul when Israel responds.

1. Israel's 'right to defend itself'
2. Moral posturing about Hamas
3. 'Rockets fired at Israel'
4. 'October 7th'
5. 'Human shields'

Hell of an entry on the tabloid bingo.

 

[eaglesdare]

1. Israel's 'right to defend itself'
2. Moral posturing about Hamas
3. 'Rockets fired at Israel'
4. 'October 7th'
5. 'Human shields'

Hell of an entry on the tabloid bingo.

Call it "tabloid bingo" if you want but those are the facts.
Israel are fighting a terrorist group not a PR campaign.

Keep dodging reality 👍🏻

 

[Penge Eagle]

And live in segregation. Think Deep South turn of century.

This statement is false and ahistorical.

Unlike the Jim Crow South, there is no apartheid or racial segregation in public services. Arabs have legal rights and there are Arab members of parliament, doctors, university professors and judges.

 

[Penge Eagle]

You have supported and tied yourself in knots attempting to excuse the murder of tens of thousands of children and civilians. Maybe one day you will reflect on that.

Because Israel are not allowed to go to war, are they?

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Because Israel are not allowed to go to war, are they?

I have never said anything close to that.

What I have said is that they are not allowed to flagrantly disregard international law and commit war crimes.

 

[Penge Eagle]

1. Israel's 'right to defend itself'
2. Moral posturing about Hamas
3. 'Rockets fired at Israel'
4. 'October 7th'
5. 'Human shields'

Hell of an entry on the tabloid bingo.

Listing serious arguments is not a rebuttal but a lazy deflection.

 

[Penge Eagle]

I have never said anything close to that.

What I have said is that they are not allowed to flagrantly disregard international law and commit war crimes.

And have they?

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Listing serious arguments is not a rebuttal but a lazy deflection.

I think it's very disingenuous to suggest I'm being lazy - those points have been raised and rebutted on here more times than I can count.

Repeating propaganda infinitely whilst completely ignoring reality is not a serious argument worthy of rebuttal - I'm happy to make serious arguments to you, because whilst I strongly disagree with you, you at least attempt to engage in some form of debate.

I won't waste my energy making serious rebuttals on tabloid trolls who have over and over again sought to label me and others as supportive of terrorists, whilst themselves being supportive of some of the worst atrocities in modern history.

There are lines of arguments still made on here which are so far out of date that it would be funny if the circumstances weren't so tragic. If someone's analysis of this situation hasn't evolved beyond 'October 7th bad' and 'self-defence', they are not worthy of serious analysis in response.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

And have they?

In my opinion, unequivocally yes.

 

[Penge Eagle]

In my opinion, unequivocally yes.

I think the verdict of the ICC or ICJ is the one that counts. 👍

 

[eaglesdare]

Imagine calling the atrocities of the Hamas attack on the 7th of October "outdated" that truly is sickening.

 

[Spindle]

Just thought I'd rib Greta a bit here. It's not clear which type of vessel she's on but from my investigations using sailboatdata.com I've determine it's a Clipper 48' Ketch rig. This model comes with a 70hp deisel engine and looking at the pictures and lack of wind, it's been running. Looks like Greta doesn't care about the pollution so much anymore.

The vessel is also named "Madleen", the first ever known fisherWOMAN. Of course it is. Why just stick with freeing Palestine when you can also be a massive feminist too. She's undateable, I'd rather take Shamima Begum out for dinner.

 

[georgenorman]

Imagine calling the atrocities of the Hamas attack on the 7th of October "outdated" that truly is sickening.

Yes, it's like that Holocaust occurrence, harping on about it, they should get over it.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Imagine calling the atrocities of the Hamas attack on the 7th of October "outdated" that truly is sickening.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Yes, it's like that Holocaust occurrence, harping on about it, they should get over it.

We got the Holocaust in! BINGO!

 

[CPFCSaturn]

I think the verdict of the ICC or ICJ is the one that counts. 👍

The ICC would be the ones who have an arrest warrant against Netanyahu for war crimes, right?

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

We got the Holocaust in! BINGO!

You are making yourself sound like a Jew hater.

The Holocaust is causative in this situation, whether you like it or not.

 

[eaglesdare]

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This you?

 

[DanH]

You are making yourself sound like a Jew hater.

The Holocaust is causative in this situation, whether you like it or not.

Think you've been called a racist by Hrolf, Saturn. My irony-meter just exploded.