Israel v Hamas

[eaglesdare]

Again:

That is a huge category mistake that even a child could spot the foolishness of.

A Dummies Guide to Philosophy available at your local library? Check it out.

As ever....the left are hypocritical.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

Do armed 'settlers' stealing territory and driving families out of their ancestral homes count as an 'attack'?
Most people would say that it does count.
In which case, all those statements could equally be used by Palestinians and applied to Israel. See how this works?

‘Most people’ ???

Here we go again with an imaginary poll and choosing beliefs for other people.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

It's a bit mental that you've denied it in your first paragraph, and then gone onto share an even more psychotic endorsement of the IDF's "beautiful" campaign which has killed tens of thousands of children.

Again, that’s not what I said. I will keep correcting you each and every time you twist words or misrepresent what I have said.

I corrected you from your post #6688 as that was not what I said, the same also applies to your post #6719 as that is also not what I said.

If you’re going to have a debate about it at least be genuine and don’t twist things and misrepresent what people have said.

The IDF are beautifully picking off one by one the Hamas operatives involved in the 7th October atrocities…They are and those not yet neutralised know only too well that it is coming.

 

[McAhuna]

‘Most people’ ???

Here we go again with an imaginary poll and choosing beliefs for other people.

Yes, I made an assumption that 'most' people aren't psychotic. Most people understand right and wrong. Most people don't support the armed theft of land and property from families.

Heck, even a significant proportion of Israelis think it's an act of terrorism. Perhaps they are 'anti-Semitic'

Poll: A third of Israelis call settler rioters ‘terrorists’

 

[Phil’s Barber]

Yes. This is the language of a psychopath from PhilsBarber....

' we’ll make you suffer, you’ll wish you’d never set foot on this earth.'
'We’ll annihilate you and we’ll inflict the maximum pain and devastation in the process.'

It is, ironically, the language of the October 7th attackers or ISIS.
These people reflect each other; they are two sides of the same coin.

To take this step by step…

Firstly you’ve agreed with a statement from CPFCSaturn which completely misrepresented what I said.

Secondly ‘This is the language of a psychopath from PhilsBarber’ doesn’t actually make sense.

Thirdly you’ve misquoted me by editing words out.

Finally it is entirely my own work and my own choice of words.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

Yes, I made an assumption that 'most' people aren't psychotic. Most people understand right and wrong. Most people don't support the armed theft of land and property from families.

Heck, even a significant proportion of Israelis think it's an act of terrorism. Perhaps they are 'anti-Semitic'

Poll: A third of Israelis call settler rioters ‘terrorists’

Never assume.

 

[McAhuna]

I also can quite categorically state that Mr Barber was posting about terrorists and not children. That was pretty clear wasn't it?

No, it's very far from clear. Lets start with this quote "We’ll annihilate you and we’ll inflict the maximum pain and devastation in the process."

To me, that sounds like a lot more than a targeted, precision assassination. What would inflict the maximum devastation, do you think?

I am not sure why we're even arguing the point. Most of these people have already admitted they support the devastation of Gaza and its people. Why try and deny it now?

 

[McAhuna]

Finally it is entirely my own work and my own choice of words.

You must be very proud

 

[eaglesdare]

I thought phils barber was absolutely clear. Only someone looking for an argument or "moral superiority" would twist the words into somthing it isint.

 

[McAhuna]

Either way, for the avoidance of doubt, no I’m not currently in favour of nuking someone.
That is too easy, too remote and not personal or painful enough, both physically and psychologically. It also has longer lasting consequences for the planet and environment.

Exhibit 2

Note the reason he is against Nuking. Not because thousands of innocents would perish. No, it's because it's not personal and painful enough. He wants to look into their eyes and see their suffering, remember?
A nuke would deny him that pleasure because it's too 'remote'.
It also might affect him in the long-term, not through guilt or remorse, but because it may affect the environment he and other survivors live in.
Sounds like someone doesn't give two fucks about committing genocide or mass murder of innocents, including children.

Only the dim, wilfully obtuse or deliberately disingenuous could deny it.

 

[Joseph Paxton]

I thought phils barber was absolutely clear. Only someone looking for an argument or "moral superiority" would twist the words into somthing it isint.

I thought he was clearly spouting a lot of bloodthirsty, cowardly invective. I was repulsed by it.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

I thought he was clearly spouting a lot of bloodthirsty, cowardly invective. I was repulsed by it.

Well then, you were wrong.

 

[eaglesdare]

I thought he was clearly spouting a lot of bloodthirsty, cowardly invective. I was repulsed by it.

Funny way of projecting whatever is going on inside your head?

 

[Joseph Paxton]

Well then, you were wrong.

Personally, I would be ashamed to voice such bloodthirsty opinions in such a public forum. Perhaps my manners are old-fashioned and dignity is chump-change nowadays?

 

[Joseph Paxton]

Funny way of projecting whatever is going on inside your head?

This picture spent a long time rattling around my mind in recent months since you ask. You could say it haunted me more than most of the others of Gaza I have seen.

 

[georgenorman]

Personally, I would be ashamed to voice such bloodthirsty opinions in such a public forum. Perhaps my manners are old-fashioned and dignity is chump-change nowadays?

And there's me thinking you were shameless.

 

[eaglesdare]

This picture spent a long time rattling around my mind in recent months since you ask. You could say it haunted me more than most of the others of Gaza I have seen.
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Hopefully the october 7th atrocities haunt you just as much. Or do Jew lives not matter as much? 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[McAhuna]

Hopefully the october 7th atrocities haunt you just as much. Or do Jew lives not matter as much? 🤷🏻‍♂️

They were obviously awful.

But there is no one on here saying otherwise.

If some deranged psychos were saying they hoped the festival-goers suffered painfully and psychologically, we would call them out instantly.

That's perhaps the difference between us.

 

[McAhuna]

Personally, I would be ashamed to voice such bloodthirsty opinions in such a public forum. Perhaps my manners are old-fashioned and dignity is chump-change nowadays?

I'm starting to sympathise with this Brazilian lad more and more.

You start off reasonable, and there comes a moment where you realise how repulsive the people shouting you down are, and you just go f*** it

 

[eaglesdare]

They were obviously awful.

But there is no one on here saying otherwise.

If some deranged psychos were saying they hoped the festival-goers suffered painfully and psychologically, we would call them out instantly.

That's perhaps the difference between us.

I dunnow.....there are some loons out there that like silencing people at concerts/festivals. Be it cancelling well known musicians or murdering, raping and taking hostages at them.