Israel v Hamas

Obviously the media shut-down by Israel , and it's partners is very effective.

If Israel are continuing to break the ceasefire, it is not even defensive. Their forces are in Lebanon and Palestinian territories. Killing people.

Unverified rumours that around 36 IDF have been killed by 'friendly fire' since the ceasefire.
 
Forest Hillbilly said:
Obviously the media shut-down by Israel , and it's partners is very effective.

If Israel are continuing to break the ceasefire, it is not even defensive. Their forces are in Lebanon and Palestinian territories. Killing people.

Unverified rumours that around 36 IDF have been killed by 'friendly fire' since the ceasefire.
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FAFO
 
James Vance has arrived in Switzerland for peace talks.

Personally, i wouldn't welcome him. If you'd seen the state he got of the plane, crumpled trousers, unshaven, and not even a tie. That is so disrespectful, I would send him home 🙂
 
In spite of the media black-out, to cloak another holocaust.

This has escaped into the wider public domain

www.bbc.co.uk

UN commission of inquiry says Israel committing genocide in Gaza by deliberately targeting children

Israel rejects the new report by the three-member expert panel, calling it a "libellous sham".
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk


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A UN commission of inquiry says Israel has deliberately targeted Palestinian children, resulting in genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes in the Gaza Strip, as well as war crimes in the occupied West Bank.

A new report alleges that Israeli authorities and security forces have "deliberately carried out acts inflicting death and severe bodily and mental harm on hundreds of thousands of Palestinian children", and that the killings continued even after last October's ceasefire in Gaza.

The commission says it has reasonable grounds to conclude that those acts "form part of a deliberate strategy to destroy the future of the Palestinians in Gaza by targeting their children".

Don't forget. Israel are forever victims
 
more countries acknowledge that a genocide is occurring. Israel and it's military suppliers are desperately trying to enforce a news blackout.
It's going to be vital that all those involved are held to account. No doubt destruction of evidence and making witnesses disappear is gathering pace.
Trying to shut down the uncomfortable truth, that the Israeli Government is embarking on genocide and stealing of land, is what the Israeli establishment is trying to do.
I am at a loss as to why this is not front page news. The wiping out of a State's civilian population and stealing it's land is just beyond words.
 
Spindle said:
Still no thread, no comment even, on the multiples more arab on arab killings through the same methods.
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Killing of huge amounts of civilians ? Probably. But Arab states are a huge market for Western arms.

The wiping out of a state of civilians, by bombing, starvation, and torture is not imbedded in Western culture. Or so I thought.
 
Forest Hillbilly said:
Killing of huge amounts of civilians ? Probably. But Arab states are a huge market for Western arms.

The wiping out of a state of civilians, by bombing, starvation, and torture is not imbedded in Western culture. Or so I thought.
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Corbyn just said that it's the bullets and bombs killing people and not any IDF forces. He said that he "can't stress this point enough".
 
Israeli forces filmed burning and bulldozing Palestinian farmland in the West Bank.
www.aljazeera.com

Israeli forces bulldoze olive groves in the occupied West Bank

Israeli forces bulldozed olive trees in the village of Zububa, west of Jenin in the occupied West Bank.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
Alongside military-armed civilians (settlers) killing more Palestinians and bulldozing Palestinian villages and farms.

All happening during the US brokered ceasefire
 
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Forest Hillbilly said:
Israeli forces filmed burning and bulldozing Palestinian farmland in the West Bank.
www.aljazeera.com

Israeli forces bulldoze olive groves in the occupied West Bank

Israeli forces bulldozed olive trees in the village of Zububa, west of Jenin in the occupied West Bank.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
Alongside military-armed civilians (settlers) killing more Palestinians and bulldozing Palestinian villages and farms.
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Israel clearing fields used to ambush soldiers and smuggle weapons? Truly the greatest crime.

Spare the olives!
 
Spindle said:
Still no thread, no comment even, on the multiples more arab on arab killings through the same methods.
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I understand why you'd be desperate to talk about literally anything else, but this thread is about the conflict between Israel and Hamas, which has also expanded to include Lebanon.

If you want to hear people's views on other topics, you are welcome to start a thread and those who wish to will contribute.

This sort of whatabouttery should be laughed out of any serious discussion - the worst form of 'debate'.
 
eaglesdare said:
Israel clearing fields used to ambush soldiers and smuggle weapons? Truly the greatest crime.

Spare the olives!
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There's not a single piece of land in the entire Middle-East that Israel wouldn't try to claim as a military target, and there's not a single occasion where it's lemmings wouldn't mindlessly lap up the blatant bullshit.

Hospitals, schools, aid centres, refugee camps, olive groves... it's all fair game for Israel and it's genocide-supporting followers.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
There's not a single piece of land in the entire Middle-East that Israel wouldn't try to claim as a military target, and there's not a single occasion where it's lemmings wouldn't mindlessly lap up the blatant bullshit.

Hospitals, schools, aid centres, refugee camps, olive groves... it's all fair game for Israel and it's genocide-supporting followers.
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Its genocide-supporting followers must include the 'labour friends of Israel'.

From Starmer's LBC interview that it was alright for Israel to starve and cut off essential services to innocent women and children in gaza in 'self-defence' then look at what has happened.

I'm relieved I did not vote for him.

A lobby for a foreign power at the heart of the British government.

😎
 
CPFCSaturn said:
I understand why you'd be desperate to talk about literally anything else, but this thread is about the conflict between Israel and Hamas, which has also expanded to include Lebanon.

If you want to hear people's views on other topics, you are welcome to start a thread and those who wish to will contribute.

This sort of whatabouttery should be laughed out of any serious discussion - the worst form of 'debate'.
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What do you make of the video in the post before this. If you search she has one out about peaceful Muslims. A bit older than this but I doubt she’s wrong. How many immigrants are you , steelye and danh housing for £350 a month then ?
 
cryrst said:
What do you make of the video in the post before this. If you search she has one out about peaceful Muslims. A bit older than this but I doubt she’s wrong. How many immigrants are you , steelye and danh housing for £350 a month then ?
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So your response to me highlighting the whatabouttery is to ask me what I think about something else that's miles off the point.

This isn't a Holy War where you have to pick between Jews and Muslims.
 
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