eaglesdare
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Yet another straw man 👍🏻
Not really. You were the one that said "Civilian deaths alone are not evidence of genocidal intent."
Yet another straw man 👍🏻
That’s correct.Not really. You were the one that said "Civilian deaths alone are not evidence of genocidal intent."
That’s correct.
So what point are you making?
Squaddies sent down for killing the enemy though. How weird.The key word is intent, which is why it can be difficult to prove.
As mentioned above, Afghanistan and Iraq are good examples of wars where despite a lot of casualties, there were no real allegations of genocide.
You’re misunderstanding - civilian casualties can absolutely be evidence of genocide, but alone they do not prove a genocide.That Israels actions are aimed to defend against terrorism. And that civilian casualties is not evidence of genocide. 👍🏻
Yes, as I said war crimes and atrocities can and do take place outside of genocides.Squaddies sent down for killing the enemy though. How weird.
You’re misunderstanding - civilian casualties can absolutely be evidence of genocide, but alone they do not prove a genocide.
Women and children always die in wars.I'm primarily irritated because a military is killing thousands of women and children - I don't know why that is so difficult to understand. I don't understand why you spend so much time telling me what I must really think - I have not been shy in sharing my views here. The constant straw mans and made up claims are so boring.
You are claiming I can't see things that I can - I agree Hamas has no moral high ground over anyone and they couldn't give a s*** about Palestinians. Completely agree.
Does that therefore give the IDF free reign to slaughter civilians? No, obviously not - that's illogical.
You acknowledge that you're not sure Israel will ever achieve what they claim is their objective, yet you continue to support them regardless, irrespective of how many civilians they kill - I find that another wholly illogical position.
For the XXth time, I don't support Hamas and never have - to equate condemnation of Israel's genocide with support of Hamas is just plain stupid.
You give you your unconditional support to a foreign government because they're a western ally - I don't agree with that, but I understand it as your position.
I don't agree with that unconditional support - I don't know why that's so hard for you to grasp.
Hamas does not control Palestine?Slight difference is that one has been elected and is in Government.
Why don't the peoples who have seen their entire livelihood destroyed, families killed, who can't access basic food and water, never mind medical care, and who are displaced and living in makeshift camps, go and overthrow the armed terrorists..?
Do these things actually make sense in your head before you post them?
My claim? Or Groks?
The key word is intent, which is why it can be difficult to prove.
As mentioned above, Afghanistan and Iraq are good examples of wars where despite a lot of casualties, there were no real allegations of genocide.
The Religious Zionist Party, Likud's coalition partner have some interesting policies that predate the October 7th atrocities.
Civilian deaths alone are not evidence of genocidal intent.
The US can certainly be accused for committing war crimes in Iraq, but there is not much evidence to suggest their intent was to destroy a protected group.
What group are the IDF trying destroy aside Hamas then?
Palestine is not a nation, Palestinians are not an ethnic group nor do they follow a unique religion. So they are not a protected group, not least of all because their own elected government, Hamas, don't protect them either.
Hamas hammy is fixated on the word genocide as he thinks it gives his pro Hamas position some kind of moral high ground if he keeps saying it.Yes, as I said war crimes and atrocities can and do take place outside of genocides.
The whole point here, which your post strengthens, is that credible accusations of genocide are not made lightly.
Not elected recently as in IsraelHamas does not control Palestine?
Both horrendousPolicies like this one?
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."
Are you seriously suggesting that Hamas do not control Gaza because there has not been any election sine the last one which Hamas won on a destroy Israel ticketNot elected recently as in Israel