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Is Selhurst Cursed ?

I think on average we generally get maybe 10-12 wins a season?

Even if we just win half that at home that's 6ish home wins. And we normally rack those up towards the end of the season when everyone has their flip flops on.
 
ripleyeagle said:
This has been going on for years,under different managers. When I had a season ticket five years ago and for the ten years before that I only seemed to see us win at home a few times a season.You get better value going away to watch us as we have traditionally been a counter attacking side.
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I have no idea why we water the pitch so much before kick off and at half time - A wet fast pitch favours a technically better team and Palace do not have the technical players to move first time fast paced play. Their first touch isn't good enough on the Selhurst pitch which isn't the largest around.
The rain on Saturday didn't help - could it be that at away grounds the bigger pitches are compensating for the poor first touches??
 
PatrickA said:
On the subject of the Selhurst curse, and for those with long memories....

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I don't think we need to worry too much about any curses put on Selhurst Park by Romark.

In 1977 Ronald Markham, to give him his real (and less exotic) name, attempted to drive blindfolded down a street in Ilford in a foolhardy attempt to prove his psychic skills.

To quote from an article recounting his stunt : "There will be no injuries, but it will not go well; he will drive the yellow Renault for around twenty yards before ploughing into a parked police van"

On the other hand, something more worrying, I've heard it said that Selhurst Park was built on the site of an ancient Indian burial ground.
 
It’s been poor at home for a few years now, if it wasn’t for our away form I’m pretty sure we would’ve been relegated by now. Especially this season, our home form is relegation form but our away form in the last 2/3 months is champions league qualification form.

16 goals in our last 4 home games end of last season seems like a dream now and a distant memory
 
i am racking my brains to figure out why we are so poor at home. C'mon Eagles, throw us a few ideas. There was the influence of the away-fans on the linesman. What else ?

Does a Home game give our players the luxury of a late morning in bed, with the missus. Hence our lads are more tired than a team bussed in from 4 hours North of here ?

or flip the question upside down : Selhurst is normal, why are we so brilliant on the road ? what is different, every time we travel ? more hungry ? more organised, less comfy, more on edge ?
 
PalazioVecchio said:
i am racking my brains to figure out why we are so poor at home. C'mon Eagles, throw us a few ideas. There was the influence of the away-fans on the linesman. What else ?

Does a Home game give our players the luxury of a late morning in bed, with the missus. Hence our lads are more tired than a team bussed in from 4 hours North of here ?

or flip the question upside down : Selhurst is normal, why are we so brilliant on the road ? what is different, every time we travel ? more hungry ? more organised, less comfy, more on edge ?
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It seems to me that we’re much more clinical with our finishing away from Selhurst. So many home games we can’t score when we’re on top. Saturday was another example. As early as the first home game against the spammers as well we should’ve been home and dry by half time but ended up losing. Yet I went to the away game recently and watched two poor sides, but the difference was mateta putting the ball in the net with his one chance and then obviously the pen.
Also at Leicester the difference was clinical finishing from us second half after they floundered in front of goal first half
Also I think we are a bit more resolute at the back away from home, we do seem to have serious lapses in concentration at home.
So maybe the answer is away from home we’re just so much more focussed because of that feeling that everyone’s against us and we want to shove it up the home fans when we’re getting some stick, possibly? If it is, not sure how the gaffer would go about correcting it at home
 
BromleyMonkey said:
It seems to me that we’re much more clinical with our finishing away from Selhurst. So many home games we can’t score when we’re on top. Saturday was another example. As early as the first home game against the spammers as well we should’ve been home and dry by half time but ended up losing. Yet I went to the away game recently and watched two poor sides, but the difference was mateta putting the ball in the net with his one chance and then obviously the pen.
Also at Leicester the difference was clinical finishing from us second half after they floundered in front of goal first half
Also I think we are a bit more resolute at the back away from home, we do seem to have serious lapses in concentration at home.
So maybe the answer is away from home we’re just so much more focussed because of that feeling that everyone’s against us and we want to shove it up the home fans when we’re getting some stick, possibly? If it is, not sure how the gaffer would go about correcting it at home
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I just think we are a team very well suited to playing on the break. Our key attacking strengths are being quick to get the ball forward and using pace in behind or in between the midfield and defensive lines. If you look at our away goals this season so many have come from winning the ball and moving it quickly in transition. When you add in the fact we are handy from set plays you have an ideal away recipe. Defend with a predominantly back five, have two tenacious midfielders and front players who are quick and direct.

Conversely at home we don’t really use any of those strengths as teams sit back more. Where we are poor in attack is passing through teams and crossing it so we struggle to break teams down. We then concede soft goals as we lose our defensive shape more with players higher up the pitch. Ideally we’d change tactics at home but OG won’t and it isn’t very easy to just switch things around on a week by week basis.

Of course what would really help is having a quality creative attacking player who could beat men, pass and finish. Our best run at home in the last few years coincided with Olise being fit and in form. Sadly we don’t have £70m spare to buy a player like that nor £200k a week available to pay them.
 
JHB said:
I just think we are a team very well suited to playing on the break. Our key attacking strengths are being quick to get the ball forward and using pace in behind or in between the midfield and defensive lines. If you look at our away goals this season so many have come from winning the ball and moving it quickly in transition. When you add in the fact we are handy from set plays you have an ideal away recipe. Defend with a predominantly back five, have two tenacious midfielders and front players who are quick and direct.

Conversely at home we don’t really use any of those strengths as teams sit back more. Where we are poor in attack is passing through teams and crossing it so we struggle to break teams down. We then concede soft goals as we lose our defensive shape more with players higher up the pitch. Ideally we’d change tactics at home but OG won’t and it isn’t very easy to just switch things around on a week by week basis.

Of course what would really help is having a quality creative attacking player who could beat men, pass and finish. Our best run at home in the last few years coincided with Olise being fit and in form. Sadly we don’t have £70m spare to buy a player like that nor £200k a week available to pay them.
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You’ve hit the nail on the head really, we know we’ve struggled for years having to break teams down at home, but we can punish teams away when the home teams are a bit more open because they’re coming at us.
But having said that, teams don’t really sit back against us at selhurst anymore, they fancy they’re chances and I just don’t think we’re anywhere near as strong at the back at home probably because we obviously leave ourselves a bit more open because it’s on us to have a go at home.
It’s just annoying because it’s fine margins and no one apart from Arsenal this season has given us a good hiding, and strangley I actually thought we played pretty well in that game as well, it was just one of those freak games where everything they hit went in
 
we all know Selhurst is a very small pitch. I couldnt be bothered trawling through all the Statistics...but a question : do we perform worse on a small away-pitch than a large-away pitch ? if so, the problem is not the Selhurst Curse.....its small pitches that are nailing us. And a lack of correct adapting to the shorter narrower conditions.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
we all know Selhurst is a very small pitch. I couldnt be bothered trawling through all the Statistics...but a question : do we perform worse on a small away-pitch than a large-away pitch ? if so, the problem is not the Selhurst Curse.....its small pitches that are nailing us. And a lack of correct adapting to the shorter narrower conditions.
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anybody wants to crunch the data ? breakdown all the away pitches into :
a. small
b. normal
c. large.

then compare our performances between the small and everything else. And then again compare the small to the large ( excluding the normal size pitches ). Maybe that is why we are so bad at Selhurst ? not adapting to small pitches ?

have a Look at all the data since the arrival of Glasner.
 
Four of our next five fixtures are at Selhurst. Now that our league survival looks certain, let Glasner-Glazier try to fix the curse of our poxy home form.

Five straight wins on the road. And we cannot buy a win at home. There is something rotten in Denmark.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
Four of our next five fixtures are at Selhurst. Now that our league survival looks certain, let Glasner-Glazier try to fix the curse of our poxy home form.

Five straight wins on the road. And we cannot buy a win at home. There is something rotten in Denmark.
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What’s weird is it is not just the results it’s that we’ve played really poorly at home. The only home game we played well in was vs Spurs. We’ve been really poor in all of the others. Compare to our away games where we’ve played so well
 
i have a cunning plan so cunning that black adder would have called me the cunning fox

step 1 change the name of the ground to what ever team we are playing at home

step 2 paint the ground in away teams colours

step 3 take the team by coach on the M25 and go all the way round it

step 4 book them into a hotel night before

step 5 take them to the ground and rename some of the streets before hand and give them blind folds

that way they think there playing away and start winning more at home ,

there you are cunning
 
i am still seeing many post-match interviews at Selhurst with away-managers & players. They constantly chime "ah yeah, but this is a very tough place to come to". And it is making me think.....

a) they don't know the statistics
or
b) the traffic is always a nightmare for the team coach.
 
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