Immigration

[Teddy Eagle]

If I can ask one thing; please don't call them AS.

Not even if it's short for Asylum Seekers Coming Past Frontiers Constantly?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Because their claims are successful, it doesn’t mean they are genuine 😉

In your eyes, and probably mine too, no. In the eyes of the law they are.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

I wonder if Wisbech, Saturn, Steeley and Dan would like to comment

I think he's bang on.

Hardly worth a comment. I have seen his stuff before. These claims have nothing to support them and appear to have been invented by him to justify his political views.

That said, radical religious belief is a problem whenever it starts to become politically active, whatever that belief is. Hence my desire to ensure that belief is not radicalised here in ways I have described in the past.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

Our lefty friends tell us "its racist to criticize certain religions". It isn't. A religion is an ideology, not a race. Best illustrated by there being christians of every colour, class, gender and nationality.
In response, the Lefties coined a new word to control us......"you are being 'islamophobic'. Hence i reserve the right to knock the tennis ball back over then net.....

'to deny the divinity of Christ'.......must surely be protected under blasphemy law ?

Abu Hamza is Christianophobic. His buddies are Atheistophobic. And i have heard much aggresssive violent blasphemy against secularism...AntiSecularism, being AntiSecularitic...which must surely be a crime ?

And what about minority religions that get scoffed at, laughed at and persecuted ? is any protection afforded to them ? Zoroastrianism ? Druids ? The Greek Pantheon ? Native American Shamanism ? Egyptian Coptic Christians ?

Immigration. What ideologies are arriving onto our shores ?

 

[Spindle]

Hardly worth a comment. I have seen his stuff before. These claims have nothing to support them and appear to have been invented by him to justify his political views.

That said, radical religious belief is a problem whenever it starts to become politically active, whatever that belief is. Hence my desire to ensure that belief is not radicalised here in ways I have described in the past.

Wtaf? They have countries with different population levels and events.. Your unwillingness to admit it is weakness because it grinds against those morals you are convinced by.

I can see why the green party members are getting all confused by the challenges their big new Muslim MP is putting at them.

I recently had a good chat with a co worker who is a practicing Muslim, very serious. He suggested I become Muslim leaning on my traditional nuclear family beliefs but I said I don't believe in god at all so there's a problem. I said to him that I'd be better off being a Christian though should I face islam, because if have a chance to convert, although remain forever a lower level of person in the eyes of Islam. But, I said also that as an atheist I would have to die, wouldn't I? He said nothing, because he knew that would be the case.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Wtaf? They have countries with different population levels and events.. Your unwillingness to admit it is weakness because it grinds against those morals you are convinced by.

I can see why the green party members are getting all confused by the challenges their big new Muslim MP is putting at them.

I recently had a good chat with a co worker who is a practicing Muslim, very serious. He suggested I become Muslim leaning on my traditional nuclear family beliefs but I said I don't believe in god at all so there's a problem. I said to him that I'd be better off being a Christian though should I face islam, because if have a chance to convert, although remain forever a lower level of person in the eyes of Islam. But, I said also that as an atheist I would have to die, wouldn't I? He said nothing, because he knew that would be the case.

So what? It doesn’t change right from wrong.

I too have had long chats with practicing Muslims. Two of whom were Imams. They were polite and friendly but when it came to religious belief they were completely convinced. There was no alternative. They knew and those who disagreed were wrong.

Unfortunately they’re not alone. Try talking to an evangelical Christian in the USA and you get a similar attitude. As a non believer brought up in the UK with its Christian heritage and cultural influences I find this lack of tolerance and respect disconcerting and deeply worrying.

I think we need to work hard for generations to try to teach humility and respect to all our citizens whatever their religious background might be. It won’t change in my lifetime but might by the time my grandchildren reach my age.

How other countries deal with this is up to them, but we can show a lead.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

So what? It doesn’t change right from wrong.

I too have had long chats with practicing Muslims. Two of whom were Imams. They were polite and friendly but when it came to religious belief they were completely convinced. There was no alternative. They knew and those who disagreed were wrong.

Unfortunately they’re not alone. Try talking to an evangelical Christian in the USA and you get a similar attitude. As a non believer brought up in the UK with its Christian heritage and cultural influences I find this lack of tolerance and respect disconcerting and deeply worrying.

I think we need to work hard for generations to try to teach humility and respect to all our citizens whatever their religious background might be. It won’t change in my lifetime but might by the time my grandchildren reach my age.

How other countries deal with this is up to them, but we can show a lead.

The difference being that evangelical Christians in the USA are, you know, in the USA.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

I think we need to work hard for generations to try to teach humility and respect to all our citizens whatever their religious background might be.

The Christians, in Lebanon, tried that. RiP

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

Basing my instincts on previous occurrences in British society, I would guess illegals aren't here to become immersed in British culture and systems, and to add positively to society and mix freely.

I would think they are more likely to free-load on the NHS and Benefits systems. Entrench themselves into separate residential enclaves, where they can build Mosques and not bother to learn fluent English.

 

[Badger11]

I see the media and the opposition are both saying these new fast track asylum tribunals will still fail, unless of course the idea is just to approve the applications.

I wonder who gets to sit on them and what their background is?

 

[georgenorman]

So what? It doesn’t change right from wrong.

I too have had long chats with practicing Muslims. Two of whom were Imams. They were polite and friendly but when it came to religious belief they were completely convinced. There was no alternative. They knew and those who disagreed were wrong.

Unfortunately they’re not alone. Try talking to an evangelical Christian in the USA and you get a similar attitude. As a non believer brought up in the UK with its Christian heritage and cultural influences I find this lack of tolerance and respect disconcerting and deeply worrying.

I think we need to work hard for generations to try to teach humility and respect to all our citizens whatever their religious background might be. It won’t change in my lifetime but might by the time my grandchildren reach my age.

How other countries deal with this is up to them, but we can show a lead.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

I recently had a good chat with a co worker who is a practicing Muslim, very serious. He suggested I become Muslim leaning on my traditional nuclear family beliefs

ok, so he is proselytising for his religion. Getting new converts.

You do know what would happen ? to you ? if you tried that in one of his countries ? Forget about setting up a table of religious books outside a Supermarket. Even just a casual chat with a buddy inside the Supermarket.

Immigration....... belief systems and all that.

Imprisonment of Christians Jumps Six-Fold in Iran as Persecution Intensifies

Judge to Christian: “It’s a disgrace that you are even breathing the air in this sacred courtroom. You should go to prison right now.” Over 300 Prosecuted in Tehran Alone, Nearly 100 Sentenced to Long Prison Terms for Practicing Faith April 1, 2025 — Iran’s relentless persecution of Christians...

iranhumanrights.org

 

[Rudi Hedman]

Hardly worth a comment. I have seen his stuff before. These claims have nothing to support them and appear to have been invented by him to justify his political views.

That said, radical religious belief is a problem whenever it starts to become politically active, whatever that belief is. Hence my desire to ensure that belief is not radicalised here in ways I have described in the past.

You should be in a party called Chuck Your Own Country In The Bin.

Muslim population of Cornwall? 0.0001% ?

 

[Badger11]

You should be in a party called Chuck Your Own Country In The Bin.

Muslim population of Cornwall? 0.0001% ?

The locals don't even like us going on holiday there, but they like the taxpayers money they get for the NHS schools etc.

Free Cornwall.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

Actually I don’t see this country as his country the way he carries on. Anyone with his opinions doesn’t deserve it. If he’s okay with how it’s going then why not emigrate to some third world Islamic hell hole? Or just pick certain postcodes in London.

 

[beak]

Far to much time and energy is spent on immigration,growth the economy investing in industry,exporting more,making use of our natural resources like oil,gas, fish, tourism, coal and research.Governments should select the right immigrants who will help us move forward economically we have enough grunt labour already.

 

[Spindle]

ok, so he is proselytising for his religion. Getting new converts.

You do know what would happen ? to you ? if you tried that in one of his countries ? Forget about setting up a table of religious books outside a Supermarket. Even just a casual chat with a buddy inside the Supermarket.

Immigration....... belief systems and all that.

Imprisonment of Christians Jumps Six-Fold in Iran as Persecution Intensifies

Judge to Christian: “It’s a disgrace that you are even breathing the air in this sacred courtroom. You should go to prison right now.” Over 300 Prosecuted in Tehran Alone, Nearly 100 Sentenced to Long Prison Terms for Practicing Faith April 1, 2025 — Iran’s relentless persecution of Christians...

iranhumanrights.org

It's ok because, "So what?" according to Wisbech

 

[Spindle]

You should be in a party called Chuck Your Own Country In The Bin.

Muslim population of Cornwall? 0.0001% ?

For now, but it won't affect him in his lifetime so he doesn't care.

 

[Spindle]

A big win for the BBC

Bristol anti-immigration march met by large counter group - BBC News

A demonstration by people opposed to asylum seekers being housed in hotels takes place in Bristol.

www.bbc.com

Truth is that Bristol is like this, very Cosmopolitan city, very left wing. Bristol attracts hippy types living in Vans on the commons and streets, using the rain drains as sewage drains from their vans. It's also full of middle class lib dem types as they can afford the houses. If the protest was in Bedminster in the south, around Ashton Gate, it would be totally different.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

The Christians, in Lebanon, tried that. RiP

Lebanon is a basket case, but at least they tried.

I lived for some years in the Philippines where alongside the dominant Roman Catholic majority there is a substantial Muslim minority. In some regions the Muslims dominate and have partial self rule. There is a long established war between “rebels” and the government, with the “rebels” being externally funded. In others they co exist, generally without any problems. They socialise and even inter marry, although that can produce family problems. Any Christian marrying a Muslim is expected to convert.

It’s not easy and it’s not perfect but it can be done and slowly improved.