Immigration

Wisbech Eagle said:
I don’t think it’s been measured but since Brexit there has been a noticeable increase in the number of headscarves being worn and the local Islamic centre has hundreds of cars parked nearby on activity days.
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You can blame Brexit for many things if you so wish but this! Silly comment imo. In early 2000s the visa regime became very lax and therefore more and more visas were issued without full interviews, that’s where your answer lies, thank you Bliar. Absolutely nothing to do with Brexit, why would it be? If anything blame Merkels open door policy
 
Common Sense Club said:
But you are happy to import that mentality which means the authorities spend precious time countering it or, more likely, ignore it in case it offends their cultural sensitivities.
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Of course I am not happy with importing such ideas. We have though so must spend time and effort trying to rectify them. Why we have is another debate, locked up in our history.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Of course I am not happy with importing such ideas. We have though so must spend time and effort trying to rectify them. Why we have is another debate, locked up in our history.
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So it would make sense to stop the importation of beliefs that conflict with our own so that we can educate those already here. But how do we counter the ‘refugees welcome’ that appear to not want to stop the importation of different beliefs? And before you say that stopping the inflow cannot be done, Trump appears to have slowed the southern border influx by being tough with his neighbours. Greece too if I am correct.
 
Spiderman said:
You can blame Brexit for many things if you so wish but this! Silly comment imo. In early 2000s the visa regime became very lax and therefore more and more visas were issued without full interviews, that’s where your answer lies, thank you Bliar. Absolutely nothing to do with Brexit, why would it be? If anything blame Merkels open door policy
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You know that I respect your opinion on these matters because it is founded in personal experience so I am puzzled by the claim that Brexit has nothing to do with it.

My experience locally suggests it has a lot to do with Brexit, due to my wife being a nurse. She tells me things and I see them myself as I am regularly at the hospital at shift change time.

Prior to Brexit there were many staff members from Eastern Europe. Some have remained but many haven’t. They have been replaced by people from a variety of places, the Philippines being well represented as are African countries, Indonesia and India. It’s from Africa and Indonesia that it appears the headscarf wearing folk come but that there are more now than before Brexit is very obvious.
 
Common Sense Club said:
So it would make sense to stop the importation of beliefs that conflict with our own so that we can educate those already here. But how do we counter the ‘refugees welcome’ that appear to not want to stop the importation of different beliefs? And before you say that stopping the inflow cannot be done, Trump appears to have slowed the southern border influx by being tough with his neighbours. Greece too if I am correct.
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We don’t have a land border with weak neighbour like Mexico. We have 20 miles of water between us and the EU. Greece has adopted temporary arrangements. Nobody is making illegal migrants welcome. They are being overwhelmed by asylum claims.

I listened to Farage pontificating this morning. He too thinks you can just turn off the taps and the flow will stop. Totally unrealistic codswallop which would make no difference at all.

There are ways to stop it, but we need to do it together with the whole of Europe.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
You know that I respect your opinion on these matters because it is founded in personal experience so I am puzzled by the claim that Brexit has nothing to do with it.

My experience locally suggests it has a lot to do with Brexit, due to my wife being a nurse. She tells me things and I see them myself as I am regularly at the hospital at shift change time.

Prior to Brexit there were many staff members from Eastern Europe. Some have remained but many haven’t. They have been replaced by people from a variety of places, the Philippines being well represented as are African countries, Indonesia and India. It’s from Africa and Indonesia that it appears the headscarf wearing folk come but that there are more now than before Brexit is very obvious.
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Utter nonsense from you, as usual. If we were still in the EU, with Free Movement of People, immigration levels would be even higher.
 
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Wisbech Eagle said:
We don’t have a land border with weak neighbour like Mexico. We have 20 miles of water between us and the EU. Greece has adopted temporary arrangements. Nobody is making illegal migrants welcome. They are being overwhelmed by asylum claims.

I listened to Farage pontificating this morning. He too thinks you can just turn off the taps and the flow will stop. Totally unrealistic codswallop which would make no difference at all.

There are ways to stop it, but we need to do it together with the whole of Europe.
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Be tough with France and they will solve the problem for us, with no need to accept anybody that we cannot identify and don’t want to accept. Once here, there is a process to remove, then protests and legal appeals and in the meantime somebody convinced a judge that chicken nuggets aren’t as good in his home country, so he can stay. Let France have the problem. The immigrants are there. They will continue to pass the problem onto us until we get tough.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
We don’t have a land border with weak neighbour like Mexico. We have 20 miles of water between us and the EU.
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Incorrect, as usual. Me and the kids played tennis on the UK/EU border this summer. With half the improvised Court in each country.
I had a small blunt 2" penknife in my pocket at the time. Which was perfectly legal-carry in the UK. And i broke the law every time i ran over the border to retrieve errant tennis-balls.

When having a late-pint and the barman cries "time please gentlemen" , you can emigrate 20 yards over to the other country and legally keep drinking.

I love driving along the NI/ROI border. The cows in the fields to the left and right of the road are respectively British and Irish. They all look the same, of course. But totally different paperwork, inoculations, inland revenue, and rules. Its A bit similar for the people.

Both tennis balls, refugees and economic migrants pass effortlessly over this border. Seemingly in both directions.

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PalazioVecchio said:
Incorrect, as usual. Me and the kids played tennis on the UK/EU border this summer. With half the improvised Court in each country.
I had a small blunt 2" penknife in my pocket at the time. Which was perfectly legal-carry in the UK. And i broke the law every time i ran over the border to retrieve errant tennis-balls.

When having a late-pint and the barman cries "time please gentlemen" , you can emigrate 20 yards over to the other country and legally keep drinking.

I love driving along the NI/ROI border. The cows in the fields to the left and right of the road are respectively British and Irish. They all look the same, of course. But totally different paperwork, inoculations, inland revenue, and rules. Its A bit similar for the people.

Both tennis balls, refugees and economic migrants pass effortlessly over this border. Seemingly in both directions.

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Come on, we all know everyone claims the dole in both countries. Two child benefits, two doles - not too shabby.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
You know that I respect your opinion on these matters because it is founded in personal experience so I am puzzled by the claim that Brexit has nothing to do with it.

My experience locally suggests it has a lot to do with Brexit, due to my wife being a nurse. She tells me things and I see them myself as I am regularly at the hospital at shift change time.

Prior to Brexit there were many staff members from Eastern Europe. Some have remained but many haven’t. They have been replaced by people from a variety of places, the Philippines being well represented as are African countries, Indonesia and India. It’s from Africa and Indonesia that it appears the headscarf wearing folk come but that there are more now than before Brexit is very obvious.
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A big part of the Brexit vote was because of East Europeans undercutting British workers by sharing houses and rooms in numbers and often taking their earnings back to Poland. This obviously doesn’t happen in the public sector NHS. Poles and East Europeans in numbers themselves weren’t the problem. It was the situation. Islam and a very different culture is a problem.
 
Spindle said:
They just don't get it do they

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The Guardian has lurched further left in the past few years, used to be a general social democratic left of centre newspaper but now it's all blue haired nonsense
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‘’ I may have to look at this flag for months, but because there is nothing I can do about it, I’ve now started to feel a little less safe in my home.’’ - Drama Queen

The locations of these people tell you enough.

County Antrim
Southwell, Suffolk
Vishal, West Sussex
Claygate, Surrey

The County Antrim person’s letter ended up going a bit extreme. Because of a couple of stupid kids in Middlesbrough during the Southport riots he claims that. The rest live in a bubble, far removed from mass immigration.
 
beak said:
Deranged woman is the author of her own downfall.
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Suicidal empathy - A rising mental condition found in female office professionals, particularly those living in boroughs close to central London by tube, especially South and West London, but not East Londonistan, surprisingly.
 
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