Immigration

Wisbech Eagle said:
A great deal.

If we stopped processing them we lose any kind of control. The support is actually quite minimal. Just enough to survive. Stopping the shelter and food would not stop them coming when they have already traveled thousands of miles and incurred huge debts to do so. It would just turn them out into the black market or a world of crime. A place where some end already but others don’t. Your way would result in them all having no other choice.
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We have never had any kind of control to lose. Many of them engage in crime and work in the black market in addition to taking the benefits and support. All support whatsoever should be withdrawn, they would stop coming within a matter of days.

From the government’s own website. In addition, some local councils and idiot charities top this up with mobile phones, clothing and various other gifts and support.

What you'll get:
You can ask for somewhere to live, a cash allowance or both as an asylum seeker.
Housing
You’ll be given somewhere to live if you need it. This could be in a flat, house, hostel or bed and breakfast.
Cash support
You’ll usually get £49.18 for each person in your household. This will help you pay for things you need like food, clothing and toiletries.
Your allowance will be loaded onto a debit card (ASPEN card) each week. You’ll be able to use the card to get cash from a cash machine.
If your accommodation provides your meals
You’ll get £9.95 for each person in your household instead.
You’ll get extra money to buy healthy food if you’re pregnant or a mother of a child aged 3 or under. The amount you get will depend on your situation.
Extra payment per week
Pregnant mother £5.25
Baby under 1 year old £9.50
Child aged 1 to 3 £5.25
Maternity payment
You can apply for a one-off £300 maternity payment if your baby is due in 11 weeks or less, or if your baby is under 6 months old.
Healthcare
You may get free National Health Service (NHS) healthcare, such as to see a doctor or get hospital treatment.
You’ll also get:
free prescriptions for medicine
free dental care for your teeth
free eyesight tests
help paying for glasses
Education
Your children must attend school if they are aged 5 to 17. All state schools are free and your children may be able to get free school meals.
 
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georgenorman said:
We have never had any kind of control to lose. Many of them engage in crime and work in the black market in addition to taking the benefits and support. All support whatsoever should be withdrawn, they would stop coming within a matter of days.

From the government’s own website. In addition, some local councils and idiot charities top this up with mobile phones, clothing and various other gifts and support.

What you'll get:
You can ask for somewhere to live, a cash allowance or both as an asylum seeker.
Housing
You’ll be given somewhere to live if you need it. This could be in a flat, house, hostel or bed and breakfast.
Cash support
You’ll usually get £49.18 for each person in your household. This will help you pay for things you need like food, clothing and toiletries.
Your allowance will be loaded onto a debit card (ASPEN card) each week. You’ll be able to use the card to get cash from a cash machine.
If your accommodation provides your meals
You’ll get £9.95 for each person in your household instead.
You’ll get extra money to buy healthy food if you’re pregnant or a mother of a child aged 3 or under. The amount you get will depend on your situation.
Extra payment per week
Pregnant mother £5.25
Baby under 1 year old £9.50
Child aged 1 to 3 £5.25
Maternity payment
You can apply for a one-off £300 maternity payment if your baby is due in 11 weeks or less, or if your baby is under 6 months old.
Healthcare
You may get free National Health Service (NHS) healthcare, such as to see a doctor or get hospital treatment.
You’ll also get:
free prescriptions for medicine
free dental care for your teeth
free eyesight tests
help paying for glasses
Education
Your children must attend school if they are aged 5 to 17. All state schools are free and your children may be able to get free school meals.
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Sounds great where do I sign up?
 
georgenorman said:
We have never had any kind of control to lose. Many of them engage in crime and work in the black market in addition to taking the benefits and support. All support whatsoever should be withdrawn, they would stop coming within a matter of days.

From the government’s own website. In addition, some local councils and idiot charities top this up with mobile phones, clothing and various other gifts and support.

What you'll get:
You can ask for somewhere to live, a cash allowance or both as an asylum seeker.
Housing
You’ll be given somewhere to live if you need it. This could be in a flat, house, hostel or bed and breakfast.
Cash support
You’ll usually get £49.18 for each person in your household. This will help you pay for things you need like food, clothing and toiletries.
Your allowance will be loaded onto a debit card (ASPEN card) each week. You’ll be able to use the card to get cash from a cash machine.
If your accommodation provides your meals
You’ll get £9.95 for each person in your household instead.
You’ll get extra money to buy healthy food if you’re pregnant or a mother of a child aged 3 or under. The amount you get will depend on your situation.
Extra payment per week
Pregnant mother £5.25
Baby under 1 year old £9.50
Child aged 1 to 3 £5.25
Maternity payment
You can apply for a one-off £300 maternity payment if your baby is due in 11 weeks or less, or if your baby is under 6 months old.
Healthcare
You may get free National Health Service (NHS) healthcare, such as to see a doctor or get hospital treatment.
You’ll also get:
free prescriptions for medicine
free dental care for your teeth
free eyesight tests
help paying for glasses
Education
Your children must attend school if they are aged 5 to 17. All state schools are free and your children may be able to get free school meals.
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Free driving lessons
 
georgenorman said:
We have never had any kind of control to lose. Many of them engage in crime and work in the black market in addition to taking the benefits and support. All support whatsoever should be withdrawn, they would stop coming within a matter of days.

From the government’s own website. In addition, some local councils and idiot charities top this up with mobile phones, clothing and various other gifts and support.

What you'll get:
You can ask for somewhere to live, a cash allowance or both as an asylum seeker.
Housing
You’ll be given somewhere to live if you need it. This could be in a flat, house, hostel or bed and breakfast.
Cash support
You’ll usually get £49.18 for each person in your household. This will help you pay for things you need like food, clothing and toiletries.
Your allowance will be loaded onto a debit card (ASPEN card) each week. You’ll be able to use the card to get cash from a cash machine.
If your accommodation provides your meals
You’ll get £9.95 for each person in your household instead.
You’ll get extra money to buy healthy food if you’re pregnant or a mother of a child aged 3 or under. The amount you get will depend on your situation.
Extra payment per week
Pregnant mother £5.25
Baby under 1 year old £9.50
Child aged 1 to 3 £5.25
Maternity payment
You can apply for a one-off £300 maternity payment if your baby is due in 11 weeks or less, or if your baby is under 6 months old.
Healthcare
You may get free National Health Service (NHS) healthcare, such as to see a doctor or get hospital treatment.
You’ll also get:
free prescriptions for medicine
free dental care for your teeth
free eyesight tests
help paying for glasses
Education
Your children must attend school if they are aged 5 to 17. All state schools are free and your children may be able to get free school meals.
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Why do you think these things are done?

1) Because we want to encourage as many as possible to cross the channel in small boats and spend billions each year on them as we have money to waste?

2) Because if we don’t we would create bigger problems and incur higher costs than if we do?

3) Alongside 2) we would be in breech of our treaty obligations and risk our reputation as a leading law abiding country which respects the rights of others?
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Why do you think these things are done?

1) Because we want to encourage as many as possible to cross the channel in small boats and spend billions each year on them as we have money to waste?

2) Because if we don’t we would create bigger problems and incur higher costs than if we do?

3) Alongside 2) we would be in breech of our treaty obligations and risk our reputation as a leading law abiding country which respects the rights of others?
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4. Because those taking these decisions don't have to deal with the effects. If they had to deal with an influx of Eastern European gangsters living nearby they might show a bit more urgency.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Why do you think these things are done?

1) Because we want to encourage as many as possible to cross the channel in small boats and spend billions each year on them as we have money to waste?

2) Because if we don’t we would create bigger problems and incur higher costs than if we do?

3) Alongside 2) we would be in breech of our treaty obligations and risk our reputation as a leading law abiding country which respects the rights of others?
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The usual diversionary squid-ink from you. Withdraw all benefits and support from illegal immigrants and they would stop coming.
As for a 'breech' of treaty obligations, the archaic meaning of 'breech' is "a person's buttocks" - how appropriate, as that seems to be the area from which you speak.
 
Other EU countries have clamped down on benefits and asylum claims and stopped people at their borders. All of this has happened without incurring the wrath of the ECHR.

I beginning to think that much like the EU was blamed for not being able to stop migration pre Brexit the ECHR is just an excuse for our Parliament to do nothing.
 
Badger11 said:
Other EU countries have clamped down on benefits and asylum claims and stopped people at their borders. All of this has happened without incurring the wrath of the ECHR.

I beginning to think that much like the EU was blamed for not being able to stop migration pre Brexit the ECHR is just an excuse for our Parliament to do nothing.
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This is far closer to the truth than most people realise.
 
Badger11 said:
Other EU countries have clamped down on benefits and asylum claims and stopped people at their borders. All of this has happened without incurring the wrath of the ECHR.

I beginning to think that much like the EU was blamed for not being able to stop migration pre Brexit the ECHR is just an excuse for our Parliament to do nothing.
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It might have something to do with Tony Blair enshrining the ECHR into British law whilst most other countries just use it as a guide. We have to take the wording in its literal sense, hence the problem.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
more comedy-gold from Cornwall.

www.dailystar.co.uk

Mum of teen girl 'killed and turned into kebab meat' calls for grooming inquiry

Charlene Downes went missing from her hometown of Blackpool in Lancashire on November 1, 2003 – over 20 years later and police are still no closer to solving her murder
www.dailystar.co.uk www.dailystar.co.uk
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Yeah, those stretched and so busy Police, just too difficult to work out that underage girls are hanging around take-ways and put two and two together.

Yeah, just white (who the same guy spent about a week claiming don't exist) vulnerable working class girls from broken families.....Wrong colour and class for some people.

We still await justice.

Fiat justitia ruat caelum.
 
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