Immigration

[Stirlingsays]

Yours happens to be the last part of a thread. It was a comment that someone said that Spindle's view was the only one that mattered that I found disrespectful.

Your views are welcome.

I liked Spindle's take because I agree with it as the right one.

I never meant to give the impression that your view isn't valid to give.

The left and right both have their place in politics, whether we argue the toss on things or not. In my view some left wing policy of the past improved things.....but a lot of its social policies didn't.

 

[Eagle One]

Only in the sense that you are free to criticise those policies.

Not in the sense that Reform's have been tried.

Mass deportations have never happened in this country.

It's beyond time in my view.

Nope, I'm not going limit criticism to Farage's so called policy positions. You would be happy to pass judgement I am sure on the integrity and background of non-Reform politicians. Hence Farage and Co are fair game also.

And I will differ from you in respect of mass deportations having been at the sharp end of the work.

And if you do get your way on mass deportations who else will you blame for everything you perceive to be wrong?

 

[Glazier#1]

Yours happens to be the last part of a thread. It was a comment that someone said that Spindle's view was the only one that mattered that I found disrespectful.

That was me, Eagle, mate and it was written sarcastically.

No disrespect intended.

 

[Eagle One]

That was me, Eagle, mate and it was written sarcastically.

No disrespect intended.

Fair point and apologies

 

[Stirlingsays]

Nope, I'm not going limit criticism to Farage's so called policy positions. You would be happy to pass judgement I am sure on the integrity and background of non-Reform politicians. Hence Farage and Co are fair game also.

And I will differ from you in respect of mass deportations having been at the sharp end of the work.

And if you do get your way on mass deportations who else will you blame for everything you perceive to be wrong?

You would have to be specific.

Deporting people who shouldn't be here is a policy correct in of itself.

It's what a nation is expected to do and indeed is implemented all over the world.

It doesn't rely upon other effects.

 

[Glazier#1]

Nope, I'm not going limit criticism to Farage's so called policy positions. You would be happy to pass judgement I am sure on the integrity and background of non-Reform politicians. Hence Farage and Co are fair game also.

And I will differ from you in respect of mass deportations having been at the sharp end of the work.

And if you do get your way on mass deportations who else will you blame for everything you perceive to be wrong?

'Commies', which, I'm told by some on here, I am.

Absolute nonsense, of course, but that's the way things are these days.

You seem reasonable to me, I must say, but watch out; there some on these pages who will gun for anyone who has a different political view.

 

[Stirlingsays]

'Commies', which, I'm told by some on here, I am.

Absolute nonsense, of course, but that's the way things are these days.

Oh the irony.

You seem reasonable to me, I must say, but watch out; there some on these pages who will gun for anyone who has a different political view.

Isn't that a snowflake's charter?

Forums aren't meant to be circle jerks.

 

[Glazier#1]

Oh the irony.



Isn't that a snowflake's charter?

Forums aren't meant to be circle jerks.

Ooh! It's that old irony card.

Yawn.

'Snowflake': another right-wing repetitive chorus.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Ooh! It's that old irony card.

Yawn.

'Snowflake': another right-wing repetitive chorus.

The truth isn't required to be popular with you.

 

[Glazier#1]

The truth isn't required to be popular with you.

'The truth'

So absolutist. Dear oh Lord.

 

[Stirlingsays]

'The truth'

So absolutist. Dear oh Lord.

Yes, some things are absolutist and some aren't.

For example, there will be an absolutist truth on who murdered Ann Widdecombe.

If you can't discern the nature of truth, that's ok.

You're a leftist....I understand.

 

[Glazier#1]

Yes, some things are absolutist and some aren't.

For example, there will be an absolutist truth on who murdered Ann Widdecombe.

If you can't discern the nature of truth, that's ok.

You're a leftist....I understand.

See?

I think the inference is that I am a leftist, leftists are liars ergo I'm a liar. We're all the same.

Wahay!

Enough already.

 

[Eagle One]

You would have to be specific.

Deporting people who shouldn't be here is a policy correct in of itself.

It's what a nation is expected to do and indeed is implemented all over the world.

It doesn't rely upon other effects.

I don't need to be told that every country deports people. Heck I was in that line of work for a long time and put people on an effing plane out of the UK!

And yes I support those who are illegal or failed asylum seekers being removed. Never said otherwise.

Mass deportations and the approach of an ICE style approach in UK. With respect to you Stirling that's not something I support.

 

[Glazier#1]

I don't need to be told that every country deports people. Heck I was in that line of work for a long time and put people on an effing plane out of the UK!

And yes I support those who are illegal or failed asylum seekers being removed. Never said otherwise.

Mass deportations and the approach of an ICE style approach in UK. With respect to you Stirling that's not something I support.

Am I wrong in thinking that Restore are even talking about 2nd generation deportation?

Happy to be corrected on this, please.

 

[Stirlingsays]

See?

I think the inference is that I am a leftist, leftists are liars ergo I'm a liar. We're all the same.

Wahay!

Enough already.

Well, I don't know you, but you come across as someone who doesn't have much and thus attaches himself to the left because he feels they represent his interests more.....if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

Not all leftists are liars....Tony Benn, Michael Foot, Galloway...There are honest people in all areas of politics.

Some leftists lie and some others are deluded but most just want a worldview that I.....firstly don't believe is possible but secondly if it was I wouldn't want to live in it.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Am I wrong in thinking that Restore are even talking about 2nd generation deportation?

Happy to be corrected on this, please.

I don't think so.

 

[Stirlingsays]

I don't need to be told that every country deports people. Heck I was in that line of work for a long time and put people on an effing plane out of the UK!

And yes I support those who are illegal or failed asylum seekers being removed. Never said otherwise.

Mass deportations and the approach of an ICE style approach in UK. With respect to you Stirling that's not something I support.

That's cool.

Plenty won't.

If it happens, it won't be pretty....but as you say, you already know.

 

[eaglesdare]

I think it's time we ended citizen birth rights.

 

[Eagle One]

I don't think so.

I'm not aware also about second generation deportations.

There was a Reform announcement about taking indefinite leave to remain away from people with no detail behind that.

 

[Eagle One]

I think it's time we ended citizen birth rights.

For who exactly?

Rules already state that just because you are born here it doesn't mean you qualify for British Citizenship. At least one of your parents has to have British Citizenship or indefinite leave to remain. Has been that way for a long time.